Did Floyd duck these fighters ?? casual question to the hardcores
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Lets even say this is true. This is at best a span of 2 years.
In that 2 years he lost to Williams and Mosley. How does that put him in contention for a fight?
seemorecizzy
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it isnt true tho lol
he keeps repeatin the same shyt despite bob arum and those who actually watched during that time tellin him otherwise lol
no point in arguing with ppl who cant admit when they got it wrong
Let's go over the list:
Mosley- Didn't want the fight in the early 00s. It was too much of a risk at the time and not enough reward. Plus, he was looking for another fight with ODLH. Top Rank didn't want the fight either. When the timelines matched then Shane wanted to take time off because of a toothache. Then their careers took a different path and Shane was more willing when he was on the downside of his career and Floyd was the #1 money maker in the sport.
Tsyzu- Again could've happened in 05 and if I remember correctly there were plans on the table, but Tsyzu got beat by Ricky Hatton and soon retired after.
Cotto- Could've happened in 05 at the earliest when both were signed to Top Rank. Mayweather bought himself out of his contract with TR because of Bob Arum BS and Cotto went through his own turmoil with TR. Didn't get the chance until 2012 after Cotto left TR for Golden Boy.
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Margarito- Another TR guy. Timing wasn't there. Eventually got busted for illegal wraps against Mosley after he was asked to rewrap his hands. This also negated his big win against Cotto. Afterwards he spent the later years getting washed by Cotto (rematch) and Pac. Already got his belt took by Paul Williams and biggest win was against Kermit Crinton. He had 5 loses before any of this.
Mayweather won't fight Margarito, splits with Arum
ESPN covered this fiasco in 06. Arum offered Floyd $8M for the Margarito fight and said Floyd would've taken that fight if it came with a $10M guarantee each for the Hatton and Cotto fights and $20M for the ODLH fight. Bob was only willing to give $7M for Cotto and Hatton while not interested in ODLH. That's when Floyd chose to buy himself out of his contract with TR. Floyd ended up making $25M for Hatton, $25 for ODLH and $40M for Cotto.
Paul Williams - Timing wasn't there. Unfortunately, the motorcycle accident derailed a promising career. Salute to how he's carried himself afterwards. HE even said that Floyd didn't duck him. It just wasn't in the cards.
Pacquiao- Another TR guy. The fight not happening on time is because of Bob Arum. Floyd was on a "fukk Bob Arum" path and for good reason. When Floyd was signed to TR Bob kept him from making the big money fights (ODLH, Mosley) during the early 00s as well as marketing differences. Best thing Floyd did was leave Arum and TR. Both fighters wanted it but politics kept that from happening. Arum literally had a 100 excuses over the years on why the fight didn't happen. Some of this shyt is
ARUM'S GOT 99 EXCUSES, BUT THE SPLIT AIN'T ONE|| FIGHTHYPE.COM
Has anybody ever stopped and thought about the list of fighters people claim Floyd "ducked" are Top Rank guys managed by Bob Arum (outside Williams and Tszyu)? AND on top of that those same guys all had their own beef and falling out with Arum. If Floyd doesn't buy himself out of his contract with Top Rank then his career would've turned out like Crawford's now. Most people don't realize until it's too late (Pac, Bud, etc.) and then he slanders them after they leave. He has beefs with Golden Boy (ODLH), PBC (Haymon), DAZN (Hearn). How many more fights need to be bushed by this man before people realize he's the problem?
Look at the fights in recent years:
Bud vs Spence
Bud vs Pac
Loma vs Tank
Loma vs Haney
Fury vs Anthony Joshua
Fury vs Usyk
All hasn't happened and there is one common denominator. Yet Mayweather is the one who "ducks". Peep game.
Floyd's "ducks" in-depth by Ring Magazine.
Ducking opponents? No way: From THE RING Magazine - The Ring
Cats just regurgitate the same shyt Bob Arum says like he isn't the biggest con man in boxing today.
Mosley- Didn't want the fight in the early 00s. It was too much of a risk at the time and not enough reward. Plus, he was looking for another fight with ODLH. Top Rank didn't want the fight either. When the timelines matched then Shane wanted to take time off because of a toothache. Then their careers took a different path and Shane was more willing when he was on the downside of his career and Floyd was the #1 money maker in the sport.
Tsyzu- Again could've happened in 05 and if I remember correctly there were plans on the table, but Tsyzu got beat by Ricky Hatton and soon retired after.
Cotto- Could've happened in 05 at the earliest when both were signed to Top Rank. Mayweather bought himself out of his contract with TR because of Bob Arum BS and Cotto went through his own turmoil with TR. Didn't get the chance until 2012 after Cotto left TR for Golden Boy.
Yahoo is part of the Yahoo family of brands
Margarito- Another TR guy. Timing wasn't there. Eventually got busted for illegal wraps against Mosley after he was asked to rewrap his hands. This also negated his big win against Cotto. Afterwards he spent the later years getting washed by Cotto (rematch) and Pac. Already got his belt took by Paul Williams and biggest win was against Kermit Crinton. He had 5 loses before any of this.
Mayweather won't fight Margarito, splits with Arum
ESPN covered this fiasco in 06. Arum offered Floyd $8M for the Margarito fight and said Floyd would've taken that fight if it came with a $10M guarantee each for the Hatton and Cotto fights and $20M for the ODLH fight. Bob was only willing to give $7M for Cotto and Hatton while not interested in ODLH. That's when Floyd chose to buy himself out of his contract with TR. Floyd ended up making $25M for Hatton, $25 for ODLH and $40M for Cotto.
Paul Williams - Timing wasn't there. Unfortunately, the motorcycle accident derailed a promising career. Salute to how he's carried himself afterwards. HE even said that Floyd didn't duck him. It just wasn't in the cards.
Pacquiao- Another TR guy. The fight not happening on time is because of Bob Arum. Floyd was on a "fukk Bob Arum" path and for good reason. When Floyd was signed to TR Bob kept him from making the big money fights (ODLH, Mosley) during the early 00s as well as marketing differences. Best thing Floyd did was leave Arum and TR. Both fighters wanted it but politics kept that from happening. Arum literally had a 100 excuses over the years on why the fight didn't happen. Some of this shyt is
ARUM'S GOT 99 EXCUSES, BUT THE SPLIT AIN'T ONE|| FIGHTHYPE.COM
Has anybody ever stopped and thought about the list of fighters people claim Floyd "ducked" are Top Rank guys managed by Bob Arum (outside Williams and Tszyu)? AND on top of that those same guys all had their own beef and falling out with Arum. If Floyd doesn't buy himself out of his contract with Top Rank then his career would've turned out like Crawford's now. Most people don't realize until it's too late (Pac, Bud, etc.) and then he slanders them after they leave. He has beefs with Golden Boy (ODLH), PBC (Haymon), DAZN (Hearn). How many more fights need to be bushed by this man before people realize he's the problem?
Look at the fights in recent years:
Bud vs Spence
Bud vs Pac
Loma vs Tank
Loma vs Haney
Fury vs Anthony Joshua
Fury vs Usyk
All hasn't happened and there is one common denominator. Yet Mayweather is the one who "ducks". Peep game.
Floyd's "ducks" in-depth by Ring Magazine.
Ducking opponents? No way: From THE RING Magazine - The Ring
Cats just regurgitate the same shyt Bob Arum says like he isn't the biggest con man in boxing today.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
... Mosley was at 154 at the time 2 divisions away from Floyd.. And still had business to handle at 154 vs names at the time like Oscar De La Hoya, Winky Right, Fernando Vargas.. The real duck wouldve been to avoid all those guys for a Floyd Mayweather coming up from 135...
Once Shane handled that business at 154 years later when Floyd was established at 147 an opportunity presented itself for them to fight and he was asked after his 2nd fight that year at 154 he had in 2006 would he be willing to fight Floyd.. Yes he mentioned a toothache.. Yes he mentioned taking a vacation, but the part all you people choose to ignore in that interview is that all he said was after fighting TWICE at 154 that year he wouldn't be prepared for a 3rd fight at 147 that year but thay he would be available "ANYTIME next year"...
So what happened was Floyd fights Baldomir at 147 in Nov 06(who he should've already fought and opted for his leftovers Zab) then next year should've had the showdown with Mosley.. what does Floyd do instead??... He opts to fight Oscar De Loya instead.. Oscar is a big fight so cool... Fight Shane afterwards... Floyd opts to retire instead cause 147 got scolding hot.. This is why their careers "took a different path"... One could argue Floyd was the one that actually ducked and was waiting for the other welters to take each other out
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seemorecizzy
Superstar
your too intelligent to believe that floyd mayweather retired from boxing and walked away from millions of dollars because he was scared to fight boxers (mosley, margarito, cotto) that he had already agreed to fight contractually.
also, i dont think there's been a boxer in da history of the sport who's ever had that thought process lol especially a fighter aa great as floyd
i would call it disrespectful but i know you gotta be trollin. so go ahead and cook, but it literally makes 0 sense lol
but you think floyd was scared of amir khan so
do your thing king
Black_Jesus
Superstar
It's funny you say that because I never seen you have this same stance when it's implied that Shane Mosley ducked Floyd cause of a toothache..your too intelligent to believe that floyd mayweather retired from boxing and walked away from millions of dollars because he was scared to fight boxers (mosley, margarito, cotto) that he had already agreed to fight contractually.
also, i dont think there's been a boxer in da history of the sport who's ever had that thought process lol especially a fighter aa great as floyd
i would call it disrespectful but i know you gotta be trollin. so go ahead and cook, but it literally makes 0 sense lol
but you think floyd was scared of amir khan so
do your thing king
I dont know if Floyd was scared or not. as great as he is, he definately did blatantly duck a good handful of fighters.. Especially at 147... you can call it trolling if you want. Just can't refute it
Wrong.
The fight should've been made after Floyd fought ODLH in May of 07. Shane previous fight was that Feb. He opted for Cotto in Nov. And guess what happened? Shane lost.
Floyd didn't retire after the ODLH fight. He fought an undefeated Ricky Hatton afterwards that December. He retired after that fight. No other fight even made sense to make at the time besides Mosley, but he fukked that up by losing to Cotto.
I don't think Mosley ducked Floyd at all and Floyd didn't duck Mosley. I just think that Mosley waited until the situation was most convenient for him and it ended up biting him.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
its been refuted several times in this thread.
even bob arum refuted it lmao
u just dont like admitting that you got it wrong.
your heavily invested in hating on mayweather so i understand that you don't wanna feel like u wasted your time all these years.
the mosley toothache situation only gets brought up when ppl try and say mayweather ducked him. it's simply not true lmao
mosley treated him like he was a lil nikka until he became a big nikka.
the problem with u is when it comes to floyd you are hypocritical.
Mosley can say he doesn't want to fight floyd now for whatever reason, and your perfectly okay with it. but the second mosley says hes ready, floyd must fight him immediately or he's scared lol
cotta can go on record and say hes not ready for mayweather, but he when he does feel ready, mayweather must accept the fight right away lol
weirdo shyt
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Mosley treated Floyd like a lil nikka cause he literally was the lil nikka at the time.. 2-3 divisions below Shane.. There was never a toothache "situation" he said he would be ready to drop down a division(147) anytime the next year having just fought twice at 154.. nikkas just try to literally revise history into Shane said he didn't wanna fight Floyd and ducked cause of a toothache
straight cap.. but I never see you question their intelligence thoughNobody said any of this.. you literally just made it up..
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That's really the main issue. Floyd was handpicking fights.
And what makes it worse was a few hand picks didn't fall through (Broner and Berto).
LiveFromLondon
Superstar
Only true and close answer plus maybe with Margorito but even then not really.
LiveFromLondon
Superstar
Not prestigious outside the heavyweight division
Black_Jesus
Superstar
That's only because fans hold different fighters to different standards..
They call Canelo a duck for not fighting Andrade and becoming undisputed at 160 when he needed one belt but then Turn a blind eye when Floyd only needed 1 belt after Pacquiao and opted to face Berto instead of Kell Brook.. But that's not considered a duck to them