Did the historical Jesus exist? A growing number of scholars don’t think so

[Thsnnor]

I ultimately can't, thats why you strive for consistency reinforced by replication and independent confirmation.

Then again, you're wading into a 17th century philosophy argument...not a 21st century debate involving neuroscience (of which we both know you know nothing about)

But none of that verifies your mind. Empirical evidence would cause you to deny everything since you can't judge it. Neuroscience is still subject to the same argument and we both know that. How can you ask for and judge God on the same criteria you have to subject your own mind to which you acknowledge you can't?

 

[Thsnnor]

that has nothing to do with my post they can all be explained by probability

It can be if people are pointing to God to be the recipient of such hope. People aren't hoping Dawin makes sure their pull out game is strong, getting to the station before they run out of gas. With Atheism there is NO hope.

 

[the cac mamba]

It can be if people are pointing to God to be the recipient of such hope. People aren't hoping Dawin makes sure their pull out game is strong, getting to the station before they run out of gas. With Atheism there is NO hope.

yea but that doesnt mean god is answering their hope/even real

what a fool

 

[Thsnnor]

yea but that doesnt mean god is answering their hope/even real

what a fool

If it is wouldn't that be evidence? I'm not following how a positive, affirmed, personal solution that you in a specific time and place received would not be evidence of God.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

But none of that verifies your mind.

Do we need to go back to Decartes?

Empirical evidence would cause you to deny everything since you can't judge it.

False. If you assert a claim, then that evidence must support that claim.

Neuroscience is still subject to the same argument and we both know that.

Its not, further elucidating that you don't know what you're talking about. I have degrees in this stuff...you don't.

How can you ask for and judge God on the same criteria you have to subject your own mind to which you acknowledge you can't?

The irony is that you're presupposing the very thing you claim to be true yet claim only you are capable of evaluating the very same claims.

Ease up on the solipsism.

 

[Thsnnor]

Do we need to go back to Decartes?
False. If you assert a claim, then that evidence must support that claim.

Its not, further elucidating that you don't know what you're talking about. I have degrees in this stuff...you don't.


The irony is that you're presupposing the very thing you claim to be true yet claim only you are capable of evaluating the very same claims.

Ease up on the solipsism.

Based upon what you said earlier how can you get to item #2 when you can't or don't trust your mind?

 

[the cac mamba]

If it is wouldn't that be evidence? I'm not following how a positive, affirmed, personal solution that you in a specific time and place received would not be evidence of God.

so if i hope i get to the bus on time, and i get there on time, then god is real what a fukkin clown

im done here, ill let you get back to sucking off jesus

 

[Thsnnor]

so if i hope i get to the bus on time, and i get there on time, then god is real what a fukkin clown

im done here, ill let you get back to sucking off jesus

So if you hope to get to the bus on time during a rain storm which caused your watch to stop working and you don't know what time it is or how much time you have left to get there and there was a marked off area due to a shooting which caused you to detour and you just thought you seen the tail end of a bus drive past. We are talking about what people go through in which would give them a reason to have to hope. If the day is sunny and you are two houses away from the stop then why hope? Its not like someone is going to drop dead of a heart attack or something right.

 

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Based upon what you said earlier how can you get to item #2 when you can't or don't trust your mind?

Humor me:

Why do you trust YOUR mind?

 

[Turk]

Why does Atheism need to offer anything? It's just a position on the existence of God. Theism in and of it's self doesn't offer anything either.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why does Atheism need to offer anything? It's just a position on the existence of God. Theism in and of it's self doesn't offer anything either.

Don't waste your time. Dudes like @Thsnnor can't understand this nuance.

Theism really corrupts your ability to reason consistently.

 

[Thsnnor]

Why does Atheism need to offer anything? It's just a position on the existence of God. Theism in and of it's self doesn't offer anything either.

It offers something more when we die. Death is not the last stop. Everyone has a soul which is known but can't be proven scientifically. I don't believe life is a game of Monopoly. Spend your entire life acquiring things that mean zip after you pass. According to the Atheist view life is nothing more than collecting things for your family members to fight over after you die.

 

[Thsnnor]

Don't waste your time. Dudes like @Thsnnor can't understand this nuance.

Theism really corrupts your ability to reason consistently.

But you are more likely to visit a religion thread than I am........ I still think you are a closet theist.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

But you are more likely to visit a religion thread than I am........

I hate communism so I'd visit those threads to shoot down the idea if i have the chance

I still think you are a closet theist.

You can think I'm the Princess Anastasia if you want

Who gives a fukk?