Did the NBA product suddenly suck when viewership dropped by 50% when MJ 1st retired?

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Stern didn’t fix something that wasn’t broken

Stern pulled a Gordon Ramsey

In none of our lifetimes have we seen the NBA more down trodden than it was late 70s/early 80s

It’s pointless to bring him up without acknowledging the lack of interest which inspired the change was due to the exact shyt y’all want to get back to lol
 

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Stern didn’t fix something that wasn’t broken

Stern pulled a Gordon Ramsey

In none of our lifetimes have we seen the NBA more down trodden than it was late 70s/early 80s

It’s pointless to bring him up without acknowledging the lack of interest which inspired the change was due to the exact shyt y’all want to get back to lol
The 70s was a dinosaur era. Coke....Finals on tape delay. :scust:

But they hit their stride in 81 moving forward.
 

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The worst thing the NBA ever did was leave CBS. The NBC marketing was overrated and made it too star driven a league
Being star driven helped save the league from being on Tape delay. Can't have your cake and eat it too. The nba is the nba. You can't force it be the NFL or MLB.
 

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NBA fans are often more casual fans than hardcore fans. And it centers around player stanning. Other leagues cultivate fan allegiance to their team.
I’ve been saying this for years. The league also doesn’t help itself by continuing to promote the same old stars in things like the all star game. For example, Steph Curry should not have even been in that game based on merit. Why would I - as a diehard Kings fan (if I was one) - be interested in that knowing that a guy like Sabonis who I follow has no chance of being rewarded in that popularity contest. The NBA has given the media too much control over its product and ESPN is more interested in short term ratings than growing their game. College football and the NFL are popular despite the media, not because of it.
 

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Being star driven helped save the league from being on Tape delay. Can't have your cake and eat it too. The nba is the nba. You can't force it be the NFL or MLB.
You can change course on a business once it has reached scale to make it sustainable for the long term. This isn’t the 80s or 90s - people have a bunch of other viewing options.
 

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Mf don’t really start playing til after all star

The college product is so watered down, and you don’t even know if a kids good or will be around because all they did was play AAU in a college uniform

Kids hit the league with no concept of how to be on a team, have diverse skills, or anything else then they wash out 3 years later
 

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I’ve been saying this for years. The league also doesn’t help itself by continuing to promote the same old stars in things like the all star game. For example, Steph Curry should not have even been in that game based on merit. Why would I - as a diehard Kings fan (if I was one) - be interested in that knowing that a guy like Sabonis who I follow has no chance of being rewarded in that popularity contest. The NBA has given the media too much control over its product and ESPN is more interested in short term ratings than growing their game. College football and the NFL are popular despite the media, not because of it.


While i get it, it’s a reason mf in small markets suffer, yeah he might be ill out there in sac town but nikkas not trying to see him because he’s not as big of a draw as steph

But the league has to step in and start promoting them more and they have to do things to allow them to put together teams, at one point sac town had a squad, long gone are those days same for Portland
 

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Other sports have 50 players, some of those sports players with masks on that you barely even see.

The star thing will always be a thing in basketball. Just due to the single impact of one player.

I don’t know why people are so eager for the nba to be like other sports. It seems more like the NFL and MLB are trying to create nba level superstar celebrities. Hell they made Taylor Swift/Kelce their MVPeople for two straight seasons

The MLB and NFL have team loyalty already on lock ..if they also get the other side of larger than life superstars (NFL almost there)they’ll have the best of both worlds .
 

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The narrative than was the game was to slow and low scoring

Remember the spurs being the major example of this
 

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It was garbage :yeshrug:

I said this shyt a while back.. that I was checking some 90's game and it look slow as fukk... And I remember telling people just fukking go on YouTube...



I find the biggest tragedy in sports is being too nostalgic, not allowing space to appreciate progression.
 

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It’s a poor model breh. The league is forced to reinvent itself anytime a great retires. Meanwhile, I can be on vacation in Jamaica and see a family from Grandparents to newborns dressed in random Steelers gear from head to toe.

The NBA doesnt offer generational fanmanship outside of NY, LA, Boston, or Philly.
People like football. They dont actually like basketball and never have. That model came out of necessity. People were not checking for the NBA in its first 40 years of existence, before the star model. The league wouldnt exist right now if Magic and Bird dont come along. People arent receptive to generational fansmanship in the NBA. Nothing is stopping it...people just don't do it. NFL been Brady/Manning and now Mahomes/Allen/Lamar for this entire century. Yet since people actually like football you have Steelers, Slurs, Jets, Giants, Lions, Bears etc fans still rocking with their squads and passing it forward. NBA is like wrestling...people come for the stars. It is what it is.
 

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I said this shyt a while back.. that I was checking some 90's game and it look slow as fukk... And I remember telling people just fukking go on YouTube...



I find the biggest tragedy in sports is being too nostalgic, not allowing space to appreciate progression.
It’s a problem both ways. Appreciate the progression of the league and also understand the different philosophy of older basketball. The poster you are quoting is part of the problem because it’s just Stan wars being disguised as objective criticism.
 
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