Did the NBA product suddenly suck when viewership dropped by 50% when MJ 1st retired?

No1

Retired.
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
31,198
Reputation
5,025
Daps
70,316
While i get it, it’s a reason mf in small markets suffer, yeah he might be ill out there in sac town but nikkas not trying to see him because he’s not as big of a draw as steph

But the league has to step in and start promoting them more and they have to do things to allow them to put together teams, at one point sac town had a squad, long gone are those days same for Portland
Shai became a star out of OKC, so did Russ and KD. But that’s because of Nike and Jordan brand. Shoe companies do the NBA’s job for them.
 

Harry B

Veteran
Joined
May 20, 2012
Messages
31,848
Reputation
-1,056
Daps
64,287
The MLB and NFL have team loyalty already on lock ..if they also get the other side of larger than life superstars (NFL almost there)they’ll have the best of both worlds .
Good point but it depends on how the new generations with the mobility of the internet and on move. Like if these new mega stars become like LeBron to the new kids then they might start losing what they had.

But I doubt it, still a risk though.


It’s a big if. If they ever create stars like say a LeBron, MJ, Ronaldo etc. in those sports.


I also believe you underestimate team loyalty in the nba. It’s just that fickle fans switch on and switch off their activity depending on how well the team is doing
 

RedBull

All Star
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
4,474
Reputation
819
Daps
12,043
Reppin
On KRS One's nose, eating sunflower seeds.
I remember being happy when Jordan retired, got tired of over saturation of his likeness. I loved the parity when he left because the NBA had no one to favor in order to win championships. My happiness wasn’t about Jordan, it was about how the NBA went overboard, but I understood the reasoning, just didn’t like it.

Also, the game in the 90’s (1995-1999) was ho hum, but more appeasing than today’s game which is difficult to watch.
 

No1

Retired.
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
31,198
Reputation
5,025
Daps
70,316
I said this shyt a while back.. that I was checking some 90's game and it look slow as fukk... And I remember telling people just fukking go on YouTube...



I find the biggest tragedy in sports is being too nostalgic, not allowing space to appreciate progression.
I think you’re forgetting that nostalgia happened because people loved the game at that point. Michigan was playing struggle football all year and I tuned in because I feel connected to it. The NBA doesn’t have that. Fans even bond over a shyt product in soccer and football.
 

DropTopDoc

20/20 Vision With my Buffs On
Joined
Sep 9, 2012
Messages
39,159
Reputation
5,940
Daps
79,512
Reppin
South Side Chicago to Nola
Shai became a star out of OKC, so did Russ and KD. But that’s because of Nike and Jordan brand. Shoe companies do the NBA’s job for them.


I’d challenge shai popularity but they also in the playoffs and had a good record so there’s something there

Kd was popular in his own right but then OKC started making a run with him and Russ
 

DaMos Supreme

All Star
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
1,051
Reputation
350
Daps
3,155
Reppin
NULL
I admit how I viewed the league back then was clouded by nostalgia and being a young fan with nothing but time on his hands. Ironically post-Jordan, I was looking forward to seeing what Webber and Hardaway could do coming into that year. The league still had their stars and I was hoping the Knicks could get a chip while MJ was gone. Collecting bball cards were huge back then as well.
 
Last edited:

Leonard Washington

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
10,214
Reputation
1,661
Daps
33,470
Reppin
A little town called none ya got damn bidness
I admit how I viewed the league back then was clouded by nostalgia and being a young fan with nothing but time on his hands. Ironically post-Jordan, I was looking forward to seeing what Webber and Hardaway could do coming into that year. The league still had there stars and I was hoping the Knicks could get a chip while MJ was gone. Collecting bball cards were huge back then as well.
Do they even sell trading cards anymore? I remember having booklets full and finessing classmates at school with the trades. shyt I would've been an amazing GM :russ:
 

DaMos Supreme

All Star
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
1,051
Reputation
350
Daps
3,155
Reppin
NULL
Do they even sell trading cards anymore? I remember having booklets full and finessing classmates at school with the trades. shyt I would've been an amazing GM :russ:
They still sell the cards, I know Walmart locations keep them up front by the checkout registers. But they are not as valued or valuable anymore from my understanding. You can packs of cards (football and bball) at Dollar Tree, and it’s been like that for some time.

The struggle was real back then hoping to get a pack with a couple of all-stars or superstars. Now you can get a pack of cards with Mahomes, Jackson, Burrow, and Allen within the same pack :mjlol:
 

Leonard Washington

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
10,214
Reputation
1,661
Daps
33,470
Reppin
A little town called none ya got damn bidness
They still sell the cards, I know Walmart locations keep them up front by the checkout registers. But they are not as valued or valuable anymore from my understanding. You can packs of cards (football and bball) at Dollar Tree, and it’s been like that for some time.

The struggle was real back then hoping to get a pack with a couple of all-stars or superstars. Now you can get a pack of cards with Mahomes, Jackson, Burrow, and Allen within the same pack :mjlol:
Man what! They players they were giving us was some ole bullshyt like Pete Meyers type shyt :russ:
 

DaMos Supreme

All Star
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
1,051
Reputation
350
Daps
3,155
Reppin
NULL
Man what! They players they were giving us was some ole bullshyt like Pete Meyers type shyt :russ:
Facts. Those cards were usually journeymen galore :russ:. I remember getting this gem in an Fleer Ultra pack and a cousin of mine stealing it from me later. I got it back after my Unc gave him a memorable don’t steal from family ass whooping:mjgrin:


kemp-dunkjpg.jpg
 
Last edited:
Top