Dirk passes Garnett on all-time scoring list (14th)

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Let me know when KG won a title as a first option on offense

In 2008.

He lead the Celtics in points per game, points in the 4th quarter and clutch scoring during their title run.

I'm guessing you never did any research on the subject and used your biased opinion to base your argument on and frankly, I don't expect anything else from a coli nikka.

*Awaits a reply on how KG really wasnt the first option, even if he attempted the most shots, hit the most shots, made the most shots and lead them in 4th quarter and clutch scoring*
 

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Career playoff averages

19.2 pts 11.1 rebs 1.4 blks 1.3stl

25.9pts 10.3 rebs 0.9 blks 1.1stl


Which player you taking when it counts the most :usure:
 

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I'd rather build around Dirk, it's easier to find a defensive big that will hide his weaknesses than it is wing players that can close games late for KG.


Big Germ> KG

I actually thought you knew more about basketball than using the old " he can't close out games" argument. It's just a stupid argument, sorry.

And FYI, Garnett lead Celtics in scoring, 4th quarter and clutch (last 5 min) scoring during their title run in 2008. This was in 2008 which was the last year of his prime. In 2004, he lead Timberwolves in all these categories to the WCF.
 

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The East had 3 teams. Dwight and Orlando, and Lebron and Cleveland. That's it. Only 3 out of the 14 teams in the entire conference were in Finals discussion... fukk outta here with "impossible." Celtics were odds-on favorites to win the title IMMEDIATELY after acquiring Allen and Garnett

Make up bullshyt to support your invalid case, brehs.

Where was KG in Minny with All-Star Wally and All-Star Chauncey? Where was his defense against Duncan or Shaq or Dirk? Why was he losing EVERY series when he was matched up against an offensively formidable frontcourt player? KG's defense is so valuable, yet he gets sonned home anytime he has a chance to prove his metal in the playoffs? Not just his team losing games, but the opposing PF/C dropping numbers on him? Why was he missing the playoffs entirely in Minni?


At the end of the day, Dirk took Jason Terry and a bunch of scrubs past PRIME Spurs and Suns squads into the Finals. KG needed a US Olympic squad to even reach the Finals. :win:

Make up bullshyt? Nobody picked the celts to go to the finals when the 2010 playoffs started. Everybody thought they were washed by that point.

That 2006 mavs team was not garbage. Jason Terry was in his prime, Devin Harris was a threat, Josh Howard was still good. People act like the 2006 Mavs team was a bunch of bums. No, it was the 2006 team that was Wade, SHaq (who was a non factor against the mavs) ONe Kidney Zo, Gary Payton at about age 70, Antoine fukking walker, and Jason Williams.

Dirk, who is one of the best free throw shooters of all time, missed two huge free throws in game 3 and ended up losing to an inferior team.

Finally, go back and read some more of this thread you lazy piece of shyt. All your non-points about the Wolves missing the playoffs have been addressed.

And LOL at "prove his metal". How old are you? You clearly don't know shyt about the sanctions against the Twolves because of the Joe Smith scandal.
 

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Playoff averages for career

19.2 pts 11.1 rebs 1.4 blks 1.3stl

25.9pts 10.3 rebs 0.9 blks 1.1stl


Which player you taking when it counts the most :usure:

Out of context numbers, great job there.

Completely neglect that a majority of KGs playoff games are out of his prime, while all of Dirks runs are in his prime. That makes sense for a comparison.
 

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I'm actually in Physical Therapy school about to get my doctorate degree:umad:

No, I'm happy for you. You'll spend the rest of your life fingering old people who just had hip surgery. I'm glad you are living your dream.
 

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No, I'm happy for you. You'll spend the rest of your life fingering old people who just had hip surgery. I'm glad you are living your dream.

I'm gonna be working in an outpatient clinic...sports specific :stylin:
 

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Make up bullshyt? Nobody picked the celts to go to the finals when the 2010 playoffs started. Everybody thought they were washed by that point.

That 2006 mavs team was not garbage. Jason Terry was in his prime, Devin Harris was a threat, Josh Howard was still good. People act like the 2006 Mavs team was a bunch of bums. No, it was the 2006 team that was Wade, SHaq (who was a non factor against the mavs) ONe Kidney Zo, Gary Payton at about age 70, Antoine fukking walker, and Jason Williams.

Dirk, who is one of the best free throw shooters of all time, missed two huge free throws in game 3 and ended up losing to an inferior team.

Finally, go back and read some more of this thread you lazy piece of shyt. All your non-points about the Wolves missing the playoffs have been addressed.

And LOL at "prove his metal". How old are you? You clearly don't know shyt about the sanctions against the Twolves because of the Joe Smith scandal.
So we judging overall players' value by 1 trip to the line instead of superior playoff numbers, records, and achievements. :patrice:

I'm guessing you never saw KG go up against the Mavs, Spurs, or Lakers frontcourt players in the early 2000s. Oh right, Joe Smith contract is why KG couldn't contain Duncan, Shaq, or Dirk in 1-on-1 matchups, or even win games consistently against their respective teams over a several season span. :dead:

Your entire argument apparently is shaming Dirk for falling short in the Finals in 06 for missing a couple FTs, a level KG didn't even reach until 2008 with 3 All-Stars in a flabbynsick Eastern Conference. Do you see the flaw in that?

:umad:
 

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Out of context numbers, great job there.

Completely neglect that a majority of KGs playoff games are out of his prime, while all of Dirks runs are in his prime. That makes sense for a comparison.
So Dirk's prime was when he averaged over 30ppg in 2002 against the Timberwolves in the playoffs....

to 2011 when he averaged 30ppg against the Thunder in the WCFs?

9 YEAR PRIME :gladbron::gladbron::gladbron:

The fact that he was dropping 30 consistently in 2002 and also in 2011 validates his ridiculous career playoff averages, no? His stats aren't padded because of "lucky playoff games in his prime." His stats are gaudy cause he's that good, and has been.

Melo gets so much love, when his offensive game has never been as efficient as Dirk's, and his defense is just as bad. I've come to accept that The Coli will always sleep on Dirk because he's white and doesn't have KG's charisma :yeshrug:
 

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So we judging overall players' value by 1 trip to the line instead of superior playoff numbers, records, and achievements. :patrice:

I'm guessing you never saw KG go up against the Mavs, Spurs, or Lakers frontcourt players in the early 2000s. Oh right, Joe Smith contract is why KG couldn't contain Duncan, Shaq, or Dirk in 1-on-1 matchups, or even win games consistently against their respective teams over a several season span. :dead:

Your entire argument apparently is shaming Dirk for falling short in the Finals in 06 for missing a couple FTs, a level KG didn't even reach until 2008 with 3 All-Stars in a flabbynsick Eastern Conference. Do you see the flaw in that?

:umad:

Dirk had better teams until 2008. The best team KG had in Minny was with old ass spree and old ass cassell. And he probably would have made it to the finals that year except cassell got injured.

Dirk lost against inferior teams until 2011. You criticize KG for losing to superior teams.

I'm not making these arguments, you are. I'm just switching around the principles you are espousing. If you don't like my take, then you have to understand that YOUR ARGUMENT IS FLAWED.

Again, read the last couple of pages. DIrk was given loads of support through an owner who was willing to blow the cap repeatedly. The TWOLVES were one of the most inept organizations around during KG's prime.

FOr all of Dirk's glory, and all of his opportunities with superior squads, he doesn't have more playoff success than KG. THey both have 1 ring each.
 
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. THat Celtics team was Larry Holmes squared. Dirk's 2006 team was much better then the 2006 heat.

Exactly....I just knew Dallas had the Heat sewed up in 2006. They had the better squad. Avery takes some of the blame, but that squad just flat out folded when the series shifted to Miami. And yes, that Celtics squad only had one prime player who was a tweener, which was Rondo
 
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