Do blacks hate hate their own kind when they are to succeful and push boundaries?

[Prince Akeem]

You dudes on this site are way too fukking dramatic.

1 star
negged.

Stupid ass thread.

We brag about stupid shyt.

That boy be sellin that dope

Look how she bounce dat ass

That nikka real. He did 15 yrs

She out chea gettin that money. She paid a thousand dollaz on her weave

But we will shyt on the ones getting legal money

Look at this post

Don't you love how our entire race is judge by the absolute worst examples possible?

We will never have a real discussion until we stop addressing the entire race as a bunch of lowlifes.

Some of you think lower of black people then some actual racist out there.

 

[Standing on business]

someone rep me, cause this loser above negged me for a honest question and a simple observation

 

[Big Boss]

Not to get too deep, but our best and brightest communities were destroyed multiple times over the course of american history. Tulsa, OK; Wilmington, NC; Overtown, FL; Montgomery, AL; I can go on.

All of those cities were striving upper middle class cities that were destroyed by whites. So when I hear nikkas try to compare our situation with others in this country, I understand they don't realize the nature of the threat we faced.

Do you think the Jewish or Asian community would be where it is, if whenever one popped up, gangs of whites came and literally burned it to the ground?

 

[No1]

What Hov and B did this year was something never seen before in the
music industry

During a Nba finals game a random commercial caught us all off guard.
aAcommercial with jay and all the heavy weight producers in a room
working on the album and then jay states we gon drop the album july 4th
no leaks, no video, no nothing until july 4th!

what beyonce did was even more impressive, all the people who worked on that
project and not one whisper was made about her dropping an album...then
boom an album appeared out of no where and set the music industry on fire

How can you possibly hate on that????????????????????????

If justin timberlake and lady gaga did what jay and beyonce
did they would get nothing but praise from you nikkas

The Coli is not in any way representative of the general populace. Every once in a while the opinions on here and in the mainstream (and by mainstream I mean most people with a ear on the music, not the person who only listens to top 40), will coincide but you can usually assume the opposite (to varying degrees) = what most people believe.

 

[Pop123]

they are both shape shifters, fukk them nikkas.


nah, but they are both so artificial and monetarily formulaic with their moves i can't respect them on some "we" shyt, aint no racial pride shyt poppin here. jay-z clipped his scrotum and showed its Money Over Everything for him with the Barneys campaign and Beyonce is now currently portraying a horny sex addicted freak for her teenage girl worshippers, married or not that shyt aint kosher. fukk them nikkas. i respect gettin money but if you seemingly don't stand for anything at all then why are you worthy of praise?

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Self hate my ass. Yea they are successful and have tons of money. That don't mean I have to worship them like the rest of you. What have they done to help the poor communities they come from? When the Jews came into this country they slept in stoves and shared one pair of shoes between 6 people. Now look at them. They own most of NYC. Why? Because once one of them got money and power, they went back and pump their resources to uplift their entire community. Same with the Chinese who started as railroad track builders. Blacks in this country they get a bit of money and move away from their communities and leave folks behind. That's why we will never ever emerge in this country. We don't help each other. We spread the knowledge and resources. Jay and Sean are worth half a billion each, yet they don't spread that wealth to help their own kind. That's why the Jews, these CACs, the Chinese, hell even the Arabic folks who come in start businesses. But these nikkas wanna use their influence to talk about euro brands, maybachs and how their lives are much better than their fans. And yet I'm suppose to be happy for them? fukk outta here nikka! nikkas ain't asking for hand outs but as a minority in this country we should look out for each other and let us all rise. Then we can demand some respect. Demand changes. Look at the gays. They pulled their resources now they have gay marriages all over the place.

/thread.

 

[Ohene]

Self hate my ass. Yea they are successful and have tons of money. That don't mean I have to worship them like the rest of you. What have they done to help the poor communities they come from? When the Jews came into this country they slept in stoves and shared one pair of shoes between 6 people. Now look at them. They own most of NYC. Why? Because once one of them got money and power, they went back and pump their resources to uplift their entire community. Same with the Chinese who started as railroad track builders. Blacks in this country they get a bit of money and move away from their communities and leave folks behind. That's why we will never ever emerge in this country. We don't help each other. We spread the knowledge and resources. Jay and Sean are worth half a billion each, yet they don't spread that wealth to help their own kind. That's why the Jews, these CACs, the Chinese, hell even the Arabic folks who come in start businesses. But these nikkas wanna use their influence to talk about euro brands, maybachs and how their lives are much better than their fans. And yet I'm suppose to be happy for them? fukk outta here nikka! nikkas ain't asking for hand outs but as a minority in this country we should look out for each other and let us all rise. Then we can demand some respect. Demand changes. Look at the gays. They pulled their resources now they have gay marriages all over the place.

wwhen its laid out like this i cant even hate. A+posting

 

[Art Barr]

Yes we do, so does cacs. They like to keep nikkas in their place.
The funniest shyt is when a brother goes from ashy to classy he turns into to a sell out c00n. That goes hand in hand with the common notion that Miley is acting black cause she's ratchet, smoking weed on stages and twerking with rappers.

From c00ns like Charlamagne to Bill Oreilly to dumb smart Nas stans to communist activist black people they all share this opinion. And the fact that we black people support this type of hate towards their own people have made this type of labeling acceptable. While if some cac says nikka, all hell breaks lose fukking c00ns.

I lol,...
at how you ignore the stepen fetchit-ism, and sellout c00n blackface bullshyt.

you really have no idea about the history of blacks' in entertainment.
that is why you give a pass to the sellout koon shyt.
you lack knowledge of self, and till you get some.
you really don't need to speak, anymore.
you the type to turn over the whole village to anyone giving you a blood diamond, and a amd.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

Wrong...

It is not the fact that you go from ashy to classy that makes you a c00n...it is how you go from ashy to classy that makes you a c00n. As a black person. to go from ashy to classy, you can do it without compromising your integrity, but that is a very long road that most black people, hell people in general do not want to travel down, as it is much easier to take the sellout c00ning route. And it is what you do in that moment that makes you a c00n, cause as a black person, especially an entertainer if any sort, at some point you are going to be asked to do something for no other reason than your black, and you will be dealing with a lot of non black people who expect you to do it just because you are black...push this product cause you are black...talk like this cause you are black...play this role cause you are black...and the second you realize that is what is happening and you do it anyway...you are a c00n and will forever be a c00n...

I'd consider Jay a c00n because anytime white america wants to convince black america of something they go and plaster Jay face on it...and Jay is cool with that...Jay we need these nikkas to get behind moving a team to Brooklyn, we need to get them pumped up for JUST the basketball portion, we don't want them looking at the actual numbers, we don't want them to pay attention to all the expensive stores that we are putting out here...shyt they can't afford...shyt driving the land value of the area through the roof...which in turn could drive their property tax up...Jay says cool I'll do it...They say Jay we need you to make it seem like you are really a shot caller in the Nets organization, make it seem like you have some real control, that you could actual sign somebody, that you actually have a major say in key decisions...Jay says cool give me 1 gazillatrillmillionth percent of the team and I will convince them that is cool cause Jay Z own it...bunch of white dudes put together a sports agency and say "Jay we need you to reel in some black athletes, the blacker the better cause if we can just get a few "cool" athletes then the rest will just come running...Jay says cool I'll tell them it's my sports agency and I will take a few pics of me sitting in chairs and signing a paper and they will think it's me closing these deals...

Beyonce...man...come on...chick used to be close to my skin color...now this chick looks like my friends albino neighbor...come on what black person skin naturally gets that light in a span of what...a decade...I ain't never seen one...never seen one black person who's skin was around the same tone as mine and then a decade lighter that about 5 shades lighter than me and it was just a natural occurence...and I'm sure there are some blacks in other parts of the world that this may actually occur from...but beyonce aint from there...she just a regular black chick who grew up in houston

People look to Jay and Beyonce as some form of black excellence, when really all they are doing is putting a glass ceiling on just how high you can go as a "black power couple"...cause when the next black power couple comes along and they tell the women "yeah you got to bleach your skin a little bit to get on the cover of this magazine" instead of saying "yeah I'm not bleaching anything to be on the cover of anything" she will say..."well beyonce did it"

Then instead of the black man sitting down and doing everything he can to get 3 %...he is going to say..."okay i'll take that one megazillgatrillionth percent because will...Jay did"

Then both will invest money and KKKswiss and stories will come out about how they racial profile and then the man will be like "I will wait for the facts to come out"...then afterwhile he will say "I made them pay me more money and I put together a special council for racial profiling so black america...i am here to confirm...that kkkswiss is in good standing with us once again"

prolific posting...!!!!


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

also,..
we can not compare ourselves as black American's to:

jews
gays
Asians in America

all were given or kept their culture.
on top of reparations....

some jews got back, a bit of what was taken from them in the holocaust.
incomparison to not one black person knowing what or who they are at all.
Asians were given reparations from pearl harbor, and given reparations from railroad slavery.
blacks were never given anything.

gays have never not been in power.
their agenda to re-establish dominance on a public scale is at work.
yet, they have never not been in power since before Christ.
on top of those people all have their culture.
even gays have their culture, and history.
as a blackman, you have and will never be afforded these political and social luxuries.
so, stop comparing and downplaying where we are at, to those other groups.

so, please let's stop!!!!

none of those cultures, or groups/people have had their culture changed to a matriarch based social dynamic against their will, either.
nor, where they enslaved even a portion close to resembling what being black is.

 

[OG Talk]

Imagine a white person not being supportive of Taylor Swift or Justin Bieber being accused of self hate and racial treason..




Our world view is so warped as a people...

 

[Art Barr]

Bolded is a great point. The Gaga thread went 5 pages deep 250 comments easily and it didn't receive as much hate. Not many snide comments about why it's relevant to the booth when it had to do with her promotion failures and the music industry it's very relevant. Beyonce has rNb music. No it's fukking BEYONCE. When is she not relevant to hip-hop? Is Rihanna not relevant to hip-hop? What about Mary J? They make different music mostly but Mary is Hip-Hop 101. She's always relevant in hip-hop.

Rihanna is hip-hop. All these damn collabos?

The hate is Again their success is frowned upon. Too much success within our community is frowned upon.

I'm a huge JT fan. He did his thing with 20/20 part 1. Tunnel Vision, Don't Hold the Wall, Mirrors, Suit and Tie are some of my top songs of the year easy and still are getting heavy play. Part 2 was I like TKO,Take Back the Night but it was just a fail. The 20/20 experience had crazy hype train. Grammy performance was just one big Timberlake commercial for his new album. I love the album but it didn't have the impact this has. The content while good, wasn't anything particular new from Justin and Timberland productions. This is outside a well seasoned vets usually lane, visually and sonically it works. It's nothing short of quality music.

what culturally, has gaga or Justin timberlake violated...
none,..that is the difference...
gaga appeases her culture, to the T.

beyounce, and jayz do not and will not ever be about any culture.
beyounce, could ignore culture a bit because she is an rnb singer.
based on the pop sentiments of disco.
yet, she is married to a so-called hiphop bboy emcee.
yet, he nor her, appeal to anything culturally that afforded them the lifestyle they enjoy.
that is why jay and beyounce are sellouts....


art barr

 

[JustCKing]

It doesn't have anything to do with being successful and pushing boundaries. It also has nothing to do with race. People are hated any time they outgrow or won't fit into the boxes they are placed in. That goes for any facet of society.

Here in America, we like to build people up and place them on a pedestal. They become our champions. Then, when we feel bored with them, we cheer for their downfall. It's even better if the same people that became our champions fall a part personally and professionally on their way down.Take the current president for example, a lot of people went to the polls and voted for a person that they had ballooned into a super hero in their mind. Once he was elected and didn't perform on their watch or did what he wanted them to do, he became the villain. Same thing happens with music. These artists are ballooned into some mythical beings praised to high heaven until they no longer perform like we expect them then we feel the need to bring them back down to earth by tearing them down.

 

[Art Barr]

Imagine a white person not being supportive of Taylor Swift or Justin Bieber being accused of self hate and racial treason..




Our world view is so warped as a people...

taylor swift,.....
is the epitome of an artist who appeals to her actual culture and demographic.
which is why she is that large of a draw.
generally, white americans have no social culture, to violate.
Justin Bieber and Justin timberlake elongate the white experience into pedigree superstar grooming by the best hof rnb artist.
so, they are not in violation.
they are viewed as bridging and elongating the gap, that white America has in relation to black American entertainment.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

It doesn't have anything to do with being successful and pushing boundaries. It also has nothing to do with race. People are hated any time they outgrow or won't fit into the boxes they are placed in. That goes for any facet of society.

Here in America, we like to build people up and place them on a pedestal. They become our champions. Then, when we feel bored with them, we cheer for their downfall. It's even better if the same people that became our champions fall a part personally and professionally on their way down.Take the current president for example, a lot of people went to the polls and voted for a person that they had ballooned into a super hero in their mind. Once he was elected and didn't perform on their watch or did what he wanted them to do, he became the villain. Same thing happens with music. These artists are ballooned into some mythical beings praised to high heaven until they no longer perform like we expect them then we feel the need to bring them back down to earth by tearing them down.

again,...
you are forgetting the actual culture or social movement that propelled said person, as a draw.

real culturally expressed artist who do not violate their culture.
don't have those issues.


art barr