Do you have a good reason to believe in god?

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Some atheist are open to the idea of the supernatural, but understand that the supernatural cant be tested or is even proven to exists.



Did you watch this video? He specifically states that he was under the affects of MDMA. Of course you might experience something out of the norm on drugs. Also, how to you connect the behavior of you brain on MDMA to a God?

Both these points I addressed in the same manner. I fear you are being dense on purpose.

I said Atheist believe the supernatural fall in 3 categories on a case-by-case basis: it can be either false, coincidence, or unexplained.

I said Atheist believe "spiritual/metaphysical experiences are possible absent the existence of God." Therefore they would never attribute anything to God.
 

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Both these points I addressed in the same manner. I fear you are being dense on purpose.

I said Atheist believe the supernatural fall in 3 categories on a case-by-case basis: it can be either false, coincidence, or unexplained.

I said Atheist believe "spiritual/metaphysical experiences are possible absent the existence of God." Therefore they would never attribute anything to God.
Sam Harris doesn't believe in god or spirits. He believes that the universe is deterministic and material. He doesn't accept spirituality as plausible. He popped molly and meditates but it's not spiritual/metaphysical or any other type of woo :stopitslime:
 

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Sam Harris doesn't believe in god or spirits. He believes that the universe is deterministic and material. He doesn't accept spirituality as plausible. He popped molly and meditates but it's not spiritual/metaphysical or any other type of woo :stopitslime:


I already said he doesn't believe in God.

But he is spiritual, he wrote a book about spirituality.


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Yes, this is why I posed the question in the first place.

If you make a statement, you bear the burden of proof. If you make a statement with no proof to back it, I can disregard your statement with the same amount of proof.

These questions about our origins are arguably the most important questions one can ask. Why should i not talk to people about this subject? Are you scared someone will question their beliefs?

If God doesn't need to hide, then why does he? If God doesn't need worship, why does he ask for it?

I recognize consciousness in myself and others around me, i have no idea what universal consciousness is.

Just because you don't debate it doesn't make it right. Just because humans have accepted it doesn't make it right.

Don't do that, you might learn something.

There is a reason I keep saying this. I am trying to prove a point. You have shown an once of evidence for your claims, just assumption after assumption.

This is a real waste of time for you.

For me, someone who is looking for more info - even if that's my assumptions - might read what I write.

You're just spinnng your wheels. You know that science can't answer it. You reject thought experiment. So you already have everything you need before you posted this thread.

I already wrote that G-d is immaterial. If you could touch G-d then that would be material.
 

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why don't you tell me about the first week you were alive? what do you remember?

you can,but the memory is so deeply entrenched,traumatic,and pushed back into the recesses of you brain that it takes intense meditation,entheogens,and a positive framing from familia to eve begin to subliminally trace the storyboard..
 

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This is a real waste of time for you.
Maybe so, but I believe this is an important topic.
You know that science can't answer it.
Has yet to answer.
So you already have everything you need before you posted this thread.
This thread was a question to religious folks to get their take on the subject. Not one time have I ever heard/read someone give a valid reason for their belief in God. It all boils down to having faith.

Again all you have done was state claim after claim with no evidence to back up your statements.
 

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I already said he doesn't believe in God.

But he is spiritual, he wrote a book about spirituality.


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He is not spiritual, how can he if he doesn't even believe in spirits or souls.

He is a hard determinist, he doesn't believe in free will; i.e. consciousness is a purely physical phenomenon. He doesn't believe there's any immaterial agency creating our consciousness or acting on our consciousness or brains.
 

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He is not spiritual, how can he if he doesn't even believe in spirits or souls.

He is a hard determinist, he doesn't believe in free will; i.e. consciousness is a purely physical phenomenon. He doesn't believe there's any immaterial agency creating our consciousness or acting on our consciousness or brains.


He wrote a book and said it himself.

 

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He wrote a book and said it himself.


i know you believe in this woo stuff but he doesn't. i'll say it again, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN SPIRITS OR SOULS.

if you want to create your own definition of what the word 'spiritual' is then you'll just be talking to yourself.
 
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