Do you have a good reason to believe in god?

[Alpha Male]

as i have said 3x memories doesn't equal consciousness. YOU CAN HAVE CONSCIOUSNESS WITH OUT MEMORY.

do you not realize how stupid this sounds?

if you have no memory of it then how do you know you were conscious?

 

[Menelik II]

do you not realize how stupid this sounds?

if you have no memory of it then how do you know you were conscious?

you must be a troll.

when a baby is first born, the midwife hangs it upside down and slaps it so it starts crying.

Therefore the baby HAS CONSCIOUSNESS. it is aware of its environment.

 

[Alpha Male]

you must be a troll.

when a baby is first born, the midwife hangs it upside down and slaps it so it starts crying.

Therefore the baby HAS CONSCIOUSNESS. it is aware of its environment.

you have absolutely no idea regarding it's awareness or what those cries mean.

 

[Menelik II]

you have absolutely no idea regarding it's awareness or what those cries mean.

huh? the baby responding to the stimulus of being slapped and hung upside down.

It is specifically a test of the babies awareness.

 

[IVS]

in order for something to have an end it must have a beginning.

no one here can remember the day their life started.

Beginning and end are human ideas.Flux and transformation seem to be the only things in the universe. Not beginning and end

okay so logic and facts state energy can never be destroyed.

an energy lives inside me.

my energy can never be destroyed.

You believe that you're being is housed in the energy(e.g. Personality, psyche etc..)?

 

[Alpha Male]

huh? the baby responding to the stimulus of being slapped and hung upside down.

It is specifically a test of the babies awareness.

but that baby won't remember any of it... it may as well be another life.

you claim that your consciousness has a fixed length of time and yet you don't even know where to place the marker at the beginning.

 

[Alpha Male]

Beginning and end are human ideas.Flux and transformation seem to be the only things in the universe.


You believe that you're being is housed in the energy(e.g. Personality, psyche etc..)?

then when we die we transform

 

[The Don]

How do you draw a connection with the natural and supernatural?

At the very basic level everything has a start and a creator. How were galaxies created? Who came up with the idea of life? Animals, Plant life? There had to be divine intervention for all these things to come to pass.

 

[Menelik II]

but that baby won't remember any of it... it may as well be another life.

you claim that your consciousness has a fixed length of time and yet you don't even know where to place the marker at the beginning.

you argument is all over the place.

just give me an example of consciousness anywhere that has ever existed without a physical brain? if you don't answer this question i'm done with your back n forth.

 

[DREAMZZZ]

At the very basic level everything has a start and a creator. How were galaxies created? Who came up with the idea of life? Animals, Plant life? There had to be divine intervention for all these things to come to pass.

Proof, not just how you feel. Also, by this logic, something would have had to create God. All you are doing is trying to answer a mystery with an even bigger mystery.

 

[The Don]

Proof, not just how you feel. Also, by this logic, something would have had to create God.

There's not proof of a lot of things that I'm sure you believe and no by that logic something wouldn't have to had create God. God is the creator.

 

[DREAMZZZ]

At the very basic level everything has a start and a creator

Again, by your logic, if everything has a start and a creator, then who created God.

 

[Alpha Male]

you argument is all over the place.

just give me an example of consciousness anywhere that has ever existed without a physical brain? if you don't answer this question i'm done with your back n forth.

i don't see how this question relates to my argument.

are you arguing that when your brains shuts off, your consciousness goes with it?

 

[The Don]

Again, by your logic, if everything has a start and a creator, then who created God.

You don't get it. God is almighty and divine. He is where everything started. When I say everything has a creator I'm talking in the physical and natural.

 

[Menelik II]

i don't see how this question relates to my argument.

are you arguing that when your brains shuts off, your consciousness goes with it?

yes, this has been argument since the start. so can you give an example of consciousness anywhere that has ever existed without a physical brain?