Do you have a good reason to believe in god?

[Alpha Male]

yes, this has been argument since the start. so can you an example of consciousness anywhere that has ever existed without a physical brain?

i guess maybe consciousness isn't the right word then.

i believe i am more than just my brain.

 

[Menelik II]

i guess maybe consciousness isn't the right word then.

i believe i am more than just my brain.

sorry but you are just your brain.

If your brain gets seriously damaged you are not the same. If you start getting dementia or brain tumour you will not be the same you.

when there is no longer any brain, there is no longer you.

 

[Alpha Male]

sorry but you are just your brain.

If your brain gets seriously damaged you are not the same. If you start getting dementia or brain tumour you will not be the same you.

when there is no longer any brain, there is no longer you.

and what about the energy that fuels your brain

 

[Menelik II]

and what about the energy that fuels your brain

what energy are you talking about?

 

[Alpha Male]

what energy are you talking about?

the energy that blew breath in my lungs and gave me life.

the energy that created ME.

 

[Menelik II]

the energy that blew breath in my lungs and gave me life.

the energy that created ME.

you have a 19th century idea of how life works. there isnt any 'energy' 'breathed' into your body.

The energy that is produced by your body is chemical, the reactions release electrical impulses that affect the heart, nerves, brain, muscles etc.

 

[DREAMZZZ]

You don't get it. God is almighty and divine. He is where everything started. When I say everything has a creator I'm talking in the physical and natural.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claims?

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Hydrogen can bond to other elements, it does not become them.

This logic is flawed. Also you are assuming things I never said I believed.

Again, you are making a claim, the burden of proof is on you. How do you know this?

It's not that the electrons know anything. It's that the measurement requires an interaction with the electron, and it is this interaction that affects how they behave.

The entire Universe was 100% Hydrogen at first. Then Helium quickly developed in like a fraction of a second. The rest of the elements were made inside stars comprised totally of the first two elements.

So the other elements HAVE to come from Hydrogen since it is the only element created in the Big Bang

 

[War Word the Arch Angel]

i never believed. my only concept of god was of a man in the clouds.

one day i had a near death experience. i crossed over into a faraway eternal place of white light filled with love and knowledge. i saw incredible things far away from my body and home.

now i know theres more. when i came back, i was just praying and sayimng 'thank you, thank you' because of the love and presence i felt

 

[Menelik II]

i never believed. my only concept of god was of a man in the clouds.

one day i had a near death experience. i crossed over into a faraway eternal place of white light filled with love and knowledge. i saw incredible things far away from my body and home.

now i know theres more. when i came back, i was just praying and sayimng 'thank you, thank you' because of the love and presence i felt

did you see god in your 'travels'?

 

[DREAMZZZ]

i never believed. my only concept of god was of a man in the clouds.

one day i had a near death experience. i crossed over into a faraway eternal place of white light filled with love and knowledge. i saw incredible things far away from my body and home.

now i know theres more. when i came back, i was just praying and sayimng 'thank you, thank you' because of the love and presence i felt

How do you know what you saw/felt was real?

 

[Rekorb]

The Universe came out of nothingness.

Life formed out of nowhere.

This seems impossible, but here we are.

G-d is not a big ass humanoid in the sky. G-d is the entire Universe.

The Humanoid/anthropomorphic idea of God did not make it past the Garden of Eden story. You had cherubins gaurding the garden, so further anthropomorphism would be limited to angels, like the angels who led Abraham, Lot, and their wives to safety. Needless to say the stories in Genesis stretches the imagination, Jews dont take it literally, but Creationist do sadly.
The God of Moses was a spirit that was seen over the Ark of the Covenant and came to believers through the Holy Spirit. So, God is not a humanoid in the sky or on earth.


Genesis is dubious and filled with Mesoptamian lore, the Jewish Rabbi let's it be known with no hesitation, while Christian Pastors rather mislead folks by saying its all true. Theology has distorted many ideas, so you have many misconceptions because of theology, I reject all theology and stick to hermeneutics. You'll be surprised a lot theology like original sin or armageddon were created by either disturbed, psychotic, or perverted individuals. Look it up, this why the churches split in 1054, and further split in 1517, theology and heresy caused a lot of inner conflict.

I don't believe God is the universe, I believe God was the first and the universe and everything else was created after. So I don't believe God is the droplet of water or the Sun, these are matter just like universe. God influences matter, but God is not matter.

@NightStone @the cac mamba
@m0rninggl0ry @Brown_Pride @timeless @LastDayze333DegreeDemigod @NoCones

 

[War Word the Arch Angel]

i saw many things. i saw ancient looking mayan faces, i saw complex things that seemed like a round calendar. i sailed through lights etc.

i know its real because i saw things i couldnt imagine, and i felt an outside presence that i just knew to be god. god was the white light of eternity and love. i was far removed from the room and my body.

 

[Rekorb]

i saw many things. i saw ancient looking mayan faces, i saw complex things that seemed like a round calendar. i sailed through lights etc.

i know its real because i saw things i couldnt imagine, and i felt an outside presence that i just knew to be god. god was the white light of eternity and love. i was far removed from the room and my body.

You astral projected?

 

[m0rninggl0ry]

The Humanoid/anthropomorphic idea of God did not make it past the Garden of Eden story. You had cherubins gaurding the garden, so further anthropomorphism would be limited to angels, like the angels who led Abraham, Lot, and their wives to safety. Needless to say the stories in Genesis stretches the imagination, Jews dont take it literally, but Creationist do sadly.
The God of Moses was a spirit that was seen over the Ark of the Covenant and came to believers through the Holy Spirit. So, God is not a humanoid in the sky or on earth.


Genesis is dubious and filled with Mesoptamian lore, the Jewish Rabbi let's it be known with no hesitation, while Christian Pastors rather mislead folks by saying its all true. Theology has distorted many ideas, so you have many misconceptions because of theology, I reject all theology and stick to hermeneutics. You'll be surprised a lot theology like original sin or armageddon were created by either disturbed, psychotic, or perverted individuals. Look it up, this why the churches split in 1054, and further split in 1517, theology and heresy caused a lot of inner conflict.

I don't believe God is the universe, I believe God was the first and the universe and everything else was created after. So I don't believe God is the droplet of water or the Sun, these are matter just like universe. God influences matter, but God is not matter.

@NightStone @the cac mamba
@m0rninggl0ry @Brown_Pride @timeless @LastDayze333DegreeDemigod @NoCones

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