Do you have to accept Jesus to get into heaven?

[invalid]

God is Jesus but they're not 2 people



1x1x1= 1

1+1+1= 3


Same person different role

Not that I think that it matters but that's actually wrong and that would even have some Christians throwing the word heresy at you. In all actuality, most Christians don’t even really understand the doctrine of the Trinity or they understand in theory but can't wrap their head around it. The Trinity is one God in three different persons. Not one God who manifested or reincarnated himself in different versions of himself. Not one God with a Spirit and a Son. Not one person in three different roles. The Trinity is three persons with one Essence. Those three persons have always existed separately and none were created or came into being by the other - but they're one.

Logically, you can't understand it. Not even TD Jakes understands it.

T.D. Jakes says he has embraced doctrine of the Trinity, but has he? | Apologetics Index

And if someone like TD Jakes has a hard time understanding something so foundational to the Christian theology, I can't take anyone seriously who calls themselves Christians and purports that they comprehend anything from the bible. And that is the issue with taking a literal approach to the bible because it flies in the face of logic. To be a believer, you can't be anything but irrational.

 

[daboywonder2002]

I just feel like the Creator should be the only one that should be praised.

I have no proof that Jesus was performing miracles but I have seen shyt that makes me believe God exists...(scary shyt actually feel like I was driven crazy by God or something..but that's another story).

Jesus is God. He's God in Human form. You never heard of the holy trinity?

 

[3rdWorld]

Fairy tales that came together by over 15 authors with random ass backgrounds within 1500 years carrying the same core message

So its an elaborate fairy tale..

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Believing in a specific god is the most egotistical humanistic idea ever.

I always so I believe in a creator. That’s it. I haven’t died and come back. Who am I to tell people that Jesus or allah is the one. I don’t know and I don’t pretend to know

 

[generic-username]

God judges people by there hearts ,
Not everyone has been exposed to Jesus so you're heart gets judge

He knows every tiny secert and thought you have

If he knows all our thoughts, does it mean that he knew the people in hell right now were destined to go to hell and since he created everyone does it also mean that his sole purpose for creating those people was just to send them to hell after they died and watch them suffer? That is some sadistic shyt, creating people just to punish them for eternity . How again is Satan supposed to be the bad one?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Believing in a specific god is the most egotistical humanistic idea ever.

Not really, since if there were more than one 'Ultimate' there'd be no way to distinguish between them.

It isn't egotistical. It's logical.​

 

[Actually6Foot3]

That's not even something to joke about

Hell is worse beyond your dreams

yeah I'm sure it is

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

If he knows all our thoughts, does it mean that he knew the people in hell right now were destined to go to hell and since he created everyone does it also mean that his sole purpose for creating those people was just to send them to hell after they died and watch them suffer? That is some sadistic shyt, creating people just to punish them for eternity . How again is Satan supposed to be the bad one?

If this 'deity' knew beforehand what those people would do AND DID EVERYTHING TO SHOW THEM THEY WERE IN-ERROR, yet they freely chose to disregard those messages, how is the 'Creator' a sadist by giving them exactly what they've earned?

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[invalid]

If this 'deity' knew beforehand what those people would do AND DID EVERYTHING TO SHOW THEM THEY WERE IN-ERROR, yet they freely chose to disregard those messages, how is the 'Creator' a sadist by giving them exactly what they've earned?

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That 'deity' knew exactly what those people would do, who didn't ask to be created, even before he created them. That 'deity' also knew that those people that he created, that didn't ask to be created, would disregard his message on how to be saved, even before he created them. So..why create them anyway? He's not giving them what they earned, he's giving them what he wanted to give them....pain and suffering for the rest of eternity.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

That 'deity' knew exactly what those people would do, who didn't ask to be created, even before he created them.

If they didn't want the 'gift of life', they could return it at any time.

Why didn't they?

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[IVS]

Jesus is God. He's God in Human form. You never heard of the holy trinity?

Disturbed minds

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Disturbed minds

No progress is made without disturbances, so, 'disturbed minds' are not necessarily 'bad'.​

 

[invalid]

If they didn't want the 'gift of life', they could return it at any time.

Why didn't they?

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And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. - Gen 2:7



I don't think that was negotiable or came with an instruction manual on how to give back the Ghost if you didn't want it anymore.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I don't think that was negotiable or came with an instruction manual on how to give back the Ghost if you didn't want it anymore.

Can you find the text that specifically states 'Cannot return without receipt or permission."

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[invalid]

Can you find the text that specifically states 'Cannot return without receipt or permission."

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Can you do the same, re:

they could return it at any time.