Does anyone else find Enter The 36 Chambers unappealing?

[SirBiatch]

I kinda get what OP is saying assuming he's not trolling. I never check for half of this album.

METHOD Man is still one of my favorite joints to this day. Bring Da Ruckus is genius, especially that beat skip at the end. Those are the kind of peculiarities that are totally missing from modern rap and keep it from being classic.

 

[2CT]

it was supposed to sound dirty, gritty, rugged and unpolished exactly like how a kung fu chamber would look

you act like it was called Enter the 36 Carwashes or some shyt

 

[Big Mel]

One of the the 10 best rap albums of all time.

 

[Urahara_Kisuke]

Has the whole world gone CRAZY?!

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

it was supposed to sound dirty, gritty, rugged and unpolished exactly like how a kung fu chamber would look

you act like it was called Enter the 36 Carwashes or some shyt

 

[I love Latina women]

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

One of the the 10 best rap albums of all time.

naw. Top 10 of 93' maybe but all time,no way

 

[mortuus est]

reading rza's book, he was SUPPOSED to sound like this

he went through his machines... every time he got a new one, what they did for his production, and how he used them

clear sound was out for years... he purposely made it sound gritty and unpolished cause that's how he wanted his sound

another thing he did was have a list of settings, different for each member... so ghost had his settings, meth had his... and so on... he says himself that's why they sound different on different albums.. if he wasn't there personally doing the track, nobody else had his settings


and also why future wu albums don't sound like this one.. he never did it again

yeah rza said all the memebrs had different eq sittings on their mics

 

[mortuus est]

This is from the dude who mixed the album carlos bess from the gear alut forum

Hey!! Just wanted to contribute to this post. This is a list of all the gear that I used to record and mix the first wu-tang album.

Console

Peavey Production Series 2400 With Megamix Automation (Run with a Mac SE-30)

Audio Recorders.

Ampex MM1200 24 track - Originally own by Prince. "Purple Rain" album was recorded with this machine.

The majority of the record was recorded on 2" tape except "Protect your Neck" which was record on a Tascam MS16 16 track 1" reel with Without Dolby NR

Sony APR5003 2 track 1/4" with SMPTE
Tascam DA-30 DAT Recorder
Tascam 244 portastudio 4 track was used to bounce final mixes from DAT to highspeed 4 track Cassette with Maxell MX 60 Crome Cassettes.

Speakers and Amps

Westlake Audio BBSM12
Yamaha NS10m
Aurtones C5
(2) Bryston Amps 4B
(2) OCS amps MX 700

Signal Processors

Ampex 350
API 3124
Quad 8
Focusrite ISA 215
API 550A
Pultek Custom 2 eq's
Aphex Lunch Box (2) eq's (2) Compressors
1 UREI 565 Notch Filter
2 UREI 1176
2 UREI LA-4
2 DBX 166
1 DBX 160x
2 DBX 266
2 DBX 563x The Silencer
1 Alesis 3630
Valley People Dynamite Comp/gate
Valley People Gatex
Barcus Barry BBE802 Aural Exciter

Efx Units

Tascam 122 MKII was used on "repro" as an Analog slap back delay used on the vocals. You hear it more on "Bring the Ruckus"
Roland R888
Yamaha Rev 1 (Without the Remote...HaHa)
Lexicon PCM 60
Echo Plate III
Stocktronics RX 4000A
Lexicon LXP1-LXP5 + MRC
Lexicon PCM 41 & 42
(2) Yamaha SPX90
(2) Delta Lab 1024
Ibenez AD202
Roland RE-301

The only microphone that was used was an AKG-C414 EB


At the time RZa used an SP-1200, EPS 16 Plus then Graduated to an ASR-10. We would lockup the units to tape using a Roland SBX-80

The Following machines were used for the following Tracks

1 Bring da Ruckus - EPS16+
2 Shame on a nikka - ASR10
3 Clan in da Front - ASR10
4 Wu-Tang: 7th Chamber - ASR10
5 Can It Be All So Simple/Intermission ASR10 /Sp-1200 for Intermission
6 Da Mystery of Chessboxin' ASR 10
7 Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthing ta F' Wit - EPS16+
8 C.R.E.A.M. EPS16+
9 Method Man SP1200
10 Protect Ya Neck EPS16+
11 Tearz -EPS16+
12 Wu-Tang: 7th Chamber, Pt. 2 ASR 10 ( I provided the live Drums )

Most vocal Performaces were flown in using Akai -S-1000 Stereo Sampler. We would sample a lead vocal on the left with a Snare or kik on the right for reference then fly in the verses in their places.

From

Who mixed Wu Tang - Enter the 36? - Page 2 - Gearslutz Pro Audio Community

Apparently it might have been intentionl lol

very rare post , always wanted to know this deep detail for 36 chambers

also have to remember rza had a small studio in his house were they made demo's first too

that AKG-C414 EB mic tho

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

yeah rza said all the memebrs had different eq sittings on their mics

I know the low-fi gutter shyt was what RZA was intentionally going for but wasn't it also true that he couldn't afford more expensive production equipment? like it was super low budget, whether THAT was intentional or not I'm not sure.

shyt was still a masterpiece

 

[filial_piety]

Nah, it definitely goes with the era which gave it birth. I guess you just had to be there.

It has 1993 written all over it. It;s a pretty raw 90s street album by any standard.

Every time I listen to it, I feel like I was in Junior High again.

 

[mbewane]

The sensibilities that permeate this album were inspired by the shaw bros. flicks he watched growing up. Assuming this isn't a troll thread

Spoiler

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RZA's inspiration

Crazy how Rza picked bits and pieces here and there...

And yeah it's also linked to the era I guess : back in the 90s we were watching and listening to tapes a lot, had grown up listening to these dusty movies and in general everything was less polished. So like @Neva_Die_Alone said it "fit" sonically and maybe even played to some nostalgia for some

 

[Monk]

The mix quality is what makes it sound so raw.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

very rare post , always wanted to know this deep detail for 36 chambers

also have to remember rza had a small studio in his house were they made demo's first too

that AKG-C414 EB mic tho

This was rzas basement setup



A soundtracs JADE mixing Console W/ Super true Automation if im not mistaken.
Odyssey Pro Sound's Used Gear

Tascam ATR 80 2" analog Multitack recorder

http://www.studiolab.it/images/ATR80.jpg

Api Mic pres & EQ's

Ensonic Dp4 (RZA's Favorite verb)
http://www.leochristopherson.com/My_...nics_Upper.JPG

Hope everyone is well.. Peace and blessings....

Carlos Bess

 

[IAmListenin']

it was supposed to sound dirty, gritty, rugged and unpolished exactly like how a kung fu chamber would look

you act like it was called Enter the 36 Carwashes or some shyt

I see this frequently, where people don't even take into consideration what the artists/producers are going for on an album when criticizing some aspect of it. It's similar to what I said when I first got here, when people talk about lyricism, more often than not they're talking about multisyllabic rhymes when that's not what the artist was trying to do on the song/album. It's like people have rigid boxes they try to fit everything into because they can only look at everything one way instead of seeing how well they did whatever it is they were trying to do.