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Hol up hol up.... op you ain't slick and KP ain't the best player in the League nikka. Maybe in 2-3 years.
Does Phil Jackson deserve credit for the Knicks current success.....
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Hell no. He was too stubborn to adapt. He was dead set on running an offense no wanted, not even the coach. He brought in guys like Sasha Vujacic and Bargnani to run that offense. He traded away our best assets for scrubs. Thank God for our overseas scouts who convinced him on Porzingis. He even wanted to trade him away for additional picks to get Markannen.
This is a guy who traded Jr Smith, Shumpert and Tim Hardaway Jr. We had Robin Lopez on a friendly contract of $15 a year and he got rid of him for Noah at $20.
This is a guy who traded Jr Smith, Shumpert and Tim Hardaway Jr. We had Robin Lopez on a friendly contract of $15 a year and he got rid of him for Noah at $20.
Hell no
They got rid of the triangle which he never would've let happen.
Also, they're still stuck with Noah
They got rid of the triangle which he never would've let happen.
Also, they're still stuck with Noah
Phil was a victim of prior mistakes (no 1st in two of his 4 drafts), and his own indecisiveness. Could've fully committed to a rebuild but he gave Melo a huge deal + the NTC. That led to bad "win now" moves that triggered buyers remorse immediately. Handled the attempt to trade Melo terribly. Whiffed on his first head coach, and created an awkward situation for his second with the triangle conundrum. KP exit meeting nonsense.
Scouting young talent was the only part of the job he didn't botch
Scouting young talent was the only part of the job he didn't botch
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Giving Phil more credit than he deserves for anything and everything is a respected tradition so yeah, he should get all the credit. He should get the credit for the Bucks getting Giannis too.
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Running the triangle with their roster
Free Agent Signing of
1)The triangle works, breh. Popovich runs a similar motion offense like the triangle. I guarantee you if Popovich was in the same position as Phil, knicks fans would be just as frustrated...it's a process to build a winning culture in a city that hasn't won a championship in like 40 years. Popovich has a similar management style like phil, he doesn't do well with dudes who don't check their egos (I.e Stephen Jackson) . So him and Melo were bound to clash.
2)That summer teams were overpaying for mediocre players and Noah the year before was still a good rebounding defense-minded big. In the context of that summer that contract is forgivable.
KENT BAZEMORE: 4 years, $70 million with Hawks
BISMACK BIYOMBO: 4 years, $72 million with Magic
RYAN ANDERSON: 4 years, $80 million with Rockets
TIMOFEY MOZGOV: 4 years, $64 million with Lakers
Devil Plisken…CMS
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Dog you knows how this goes...sum of all parts...You represent the big dog therefore it's the big dog's choice
Phil was in dont give a fukk mode Since they kept Melo, and Threw all their dollars on aging B/C level players to pacify Melo.....
If Knicks wasnt throwing Money at Noah, Rose and the bunch to appease Melo, they might've could of had a solid number two next to KP
Nope. This is all casual talk that people love to have after the fact.
The environment was toxic when Phil was still in charge. They made some good draft picks, but they resigned Melo when it was clear they should not have. He hired Derek Fisher as coach. The Noah contract is a complete disaster. Forcing the triangle when nobody wanted to play that way anymore either. We almost lost our coach by being forced to be the scapegoat if Phil's outdated schemes did not work out.
See our guy Porzingis now? Dude walked out at the end of last season because of how toxic things were and Phil with his arrogance ALMOST traded him. Dolan FINALLY made the right call and cut his losses and moved on.
The environment was toxic when Phil was still in charge. They made some good draft picks, but they resigned Melo when it was clear they should not have. He hired Derek Fisher as coach. The Noah contract is a complete disaster. Forcing the triangle when nobody wanted to play that way anymore either. We almost lost our coach by being forced to be the scapegoat if Phil's outdated schemes did not work out.
See our guy Porzingis now? Dude walked out at the end of last season because of how toxic things were and Phil with his arrogance ALMOST traded him. Dolan FINALLY made the right call and cut his losses and moved on.
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