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What does the audience have to do with your experiences?
does prayer work?
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What does the audience have to do with your experiences?CriticalThought
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For some reason only science calls it Placebo.
Like I said before look to yourself. No one prays away cancer, homosexuality, poverty, war and pretty much any other fukked up condition. They hope things change, change their action, and on rare occasion the universe lines up with what they believed and their number is called. Simple as that.
No different than scores of folks who play lottery. How many win compared to how many play? Should be looking at how many "prayers" aren't answered than the ones that are. Because the ones that are too far and few in between.
But whatever gets you through I guess.
For some reason only science calls it Placebo.
Like I said before look to yourself. No one prays away cancer, homosexuality, poverty, war and pretty much any other fukked up condition. They hope things change, change their action, and on rare occasion the universe lines up with what they believed and their number is called. Simple as that.
No different than scores of folks who play lottery. How many win compared to how many play? Should be looking at how many "prayers" aren't answered than the ones that are. Because the ones that are too far and few in between.
But whatever gets you through I guess.
Well I think for physical worldy shyt like ''Lord help me win the lottery'' or ''lord get me that job''... then no. I dont believe God would give a shyt about that.
But against spiritual shyt like protecting you from things you cant see then yes because that is his realm.
But against spiritual shyt like protecting you from things you cant see then yes because that is his realm.
Depends on who you pray to. I'm nonreligious but spiritual. I pray to Isis and I haven't had any depression breakdowns in a hot minute. Things are slowly getting better for me as well. Whatever feels comfortable to you, do it!
the cac mamba
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so why is he killing innocent children with hurricanes?He's most certainly in chargeIf you have issues with your limited understanding of God's nature and purposes, or His methods that's cool. Doesn't make him any less God becuase you're personally displeased.
the cac mamba
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basically this@BaldingSoHard
For some reason only science calls it Placebo.
Like I said before look to yourself. No one prays away cancer, homosexuality, poverty, war and pretty much any other fukked up condition. They hope things change, change their action, and on rare occasion the universe lines up with what they believed and their number is called. Simple as that.
No different than scores of folks who play lottery. How many win compared to how many play? Should be looking at how many "prayers" aren't answered than the ones that are. Because the ones that are too far and few in between.
But whatever gets you through I guess.
i just cant get over thinking that you're on a first name basis with the creator of the universe
the pinnacle of human bullshyt and arrogance
Or disease or guilty people with the death penalty or innocent civilians by bombing or religious zealots thru war or .....see where that goes?
Is He killing everyone?
What about the people who he saves with random healing, cancer scares that are beat, near death experiences and car accidents people walk away from....?
Point is its a dumb ass question.
You're basically asking me why is God ....God. Why does the world work the way it does?
Make your own conclusions. One that negates His existence because you're not happy with a select portion of the outcomes.... or one that does once acknowledge Him once you open your mind and realize....most humans can barely successfully run a business or their own lives. We. Dont. Have. All the answers. But we can have faith.
Go run your own universe, create a bunch of beings ....like millions upon millions. ...plus animals plus other life forms and tell me how you do....
God may not fit into whatever box you want Him to fit into. ...but He's still God
the cac mamba
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what your post told me is that life is random probability. when it goes good, chalk it up to 'god' for that warm feeling. when it goes bad, chalk it up to his will or him having a bad day. all of this with zero proofOr disease or guilty people with the death penalty or innocent people by bombing or religious zealots thru war or .....see where that goes?
Is He killing everyone?
What about the people who he saves with random healing, cancer scares that are beat, near death experiences and car accidents people walk away from....?
Point is its a dumb ass question.
You're basically asking me why is God ....God. Why does the world work the way it does?
Make your own conclusions. One that negates His existence because you're not happy with a select portion of the outcomes is one that does once you open your mind and realize....most humans can barely successfully run a business or their own lives.
Go run your own universe, create a bunch of beings ....like millions upon millions. ...plus animals plus other life forms and tell me how you do....
God may not fit into whatever box you want Him to fit into. ...but He's still God
i think its fascinating watching people delude themselves with this stuff, tbh
what your post told me is that life is random probability. when it goes good, chalk it up to 'god' for that warm feeling. when it goes bad, chalk it up to his will or him having a bad day. all of this with zero proof
i think its fascinating watching people delude themselves with this stuff, tbh
when did I say random probablity? How random is it you exist with thousand of cells a brain and a mind powerful enough to question God? 
how was the universe created? Why do some people live and some people die too soon.....
you don't know. You can mock all you want. You don't know. And you're not smarter or more wise than anybody else. Choose to believe and feel and communicate with God....or dont. your call. Nobody is sweating your decision either way do what feels right for you. There is zero "proof" of so many things...how long did we believe the earth was flat or the earth was center of the galaxy? What you know today.....may or may not be what you know tomorrow. If you think God needs to put Himself in a microscope to prove to you He's real ....you're arrogant and ignorant beyond arrogant and ignorant. It just is what it is. Life is to be dis covered and felt. How do you prove an emotion is real....other than you feel it and it's shared? Do you not believe in an emotion? All the limitless ones that exist between all people. Show me the equation for an emotion. Show me the formula for your conscience?You accept what you want to. If you want to reject the person who created ALL....have at it. I really don't care if you believe or not.
it's not your path I'm walking.
the cac mamba
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You accept what you want to. If you want to reject the person who created ALL....have at it. I really don't care if you believe or not.
you're right, i dont know what god is, any more than you do. i just dont feel the need to telepathically call in favors to a magic father figure in the clouds
never have, and probably never will. but maybe im wrong 
iFightSeagullsForBread
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Does meditation work? What ever helps you get thru the day is all that matters.
thewarrior05
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Ain't nothing more attractive than a women who loves the Lord1. The takeaway is life on earth is not without suffering.....for anyone. Even God suffered. Who told you you were entitled to a life without it? Who do you know that has a life here without any suffering? Where did you even get the concept of a suffering-free life from.... and who told you, you were owed it? This is like saying each person should be able to shyt rainbows for fun and since they don't, God ain't shyt and if you were God everyone would shyt rainbows. ....
More directly, you personally feel that if you were omnipotent you would not allow suffering....yet you likely have caused some form of suffering to someone else, maybe even people you love. ..without even having that breadth of limitless power....who is to say what you would do if you had it. .. yes, suffering is an unpleasant aspect of human life. We do not live in a utopia.
2. You made not one damn point here and in all caps at that. If you don believe....then don't.
3. God didn't go and decree the deaths of thousands of Haitians. God created storms, wind, oceans, earthquakes, wildfires, floods. Tons of different manifestations of weather. Do you care about all the Asians killed in the tsunamis? The homes of the animals killed by fires and floods? Or would you like to continue to project your limited ideas of who should live and who should die onto God and then reject Him when He's not redirecting the whole course of the universe by your uniformed biased and likely ever-changing opinions?the only one with some "nerve" in that scenario. ....is you breh.
you're right, i dont know what god is, any more than you do. i just dont feel the need to telepathically call in favors to a magic father figure in the clouds
If you actually read the bible (which most non believers don't though they will claim they do) He's not a "magic father figure on the sky" He said His name is I AM. Meaning He is ALL that exists.
He is within you...and me. He is the source of your questions and rejections drawing you closer.
Doubt is fine. I've had them. Still do. Got lots of questions too.
But I'd never say I'm so smart I could explain the whole world or all of that which is created. I can't run a universe..neither can you.
It's not anymore "telepathic" than a microwave or a radio wave or oxygen. There are millions of things that EXIST that are not perceptible by the human five senses or can't be quickly explained in one sentence or a whole book.
Doesn't mean they don't exist. Doesn't mean you aren't using them every day.
Get on the next level.
You don't even sound like a non believer just someone who isn't informed and hasn't done any real research.
Talk to God about your questions, bet money you get an answer.
My quick test, speak out loud, THERE IS NO GOD AND HE DOESN'T LOVE ME. and see if that feels 100% correct and cool in your mind and heart. If so, you're a true atheist and want a life away from God...if not....you need to keep digging, figure out where your issues and contradictions lie...
