Don’t fall for these trick questions if you’re pulled over by police!

Uachet

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Maybe re-read brother. I'm saying that if you cannot consent to an "unlawful search".
No, that is not what you said. This is what you said,

If you consent then the search isn't unlawful, that's the point of the consent.
That is not the same thing.

Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish here?
 

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Ok, I have had an actual ADA tell me how to deal with these circumstances. We have a film of an actual attorney show us how to deal with 4 particular questions. Here comes you, in all of your ignorance, trying to speak against what experts have stated.

What is your real goal in doing this?


Trying to argue with a cop in the streets
Never benefits you. A corrupt cop ain’t following the rules
 

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I think he's deathly afraid of white people and continually will ask of black people to try to be on some sort of "prove yourself to them of being worthy of fair treatment" shyt
If a cop wants to escalate a situation and shoot you at a traffic stop then they will even if you say yes to everything like he's saying. There's no reason to self incriminate yourself and none of these answers prolong the stop except maybe not consenting to a search because they'll find other shyt to try to pin on you.

Black people are twice as likely as white people to be shot and killed by police officers, that's reason enough to be "deathly" afraid. While I'm not deathly afraid of white people, I am acutely aware of what could happen while detained by police.

:manny:
 

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No, that is not what you said. This is what you said,


That is not the same thing.

Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish here?

Both mean the same thing.

I'm not trying to "accomplish" anything, I'm sharing my opinions about police stops.
 

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Black people are twice as likely as white people to be shot and killed by police officers, that's reason enough to be "deathly" afraid. While I'm not deathly afraid of white people, I am acutely aware of what could happen while detained by police.

:manny:
Yeah being black and dealing with police is about LUCK. You can comply all you want to and admit to things they accuse you of all you want but police brutality is brought on by the officers themselves and has nothing to do with the conduct of the individual. That's why it's called BRUTALITY it implies excessive force than called for in the situation. You realize being detained for a simple traffic stop is NOT normal right? The officers escalate the situation so they can harm you in an attempt to cover their ass IF charges are brought up for harming you. If they want to then they will it's a matter of if they feel they can get away with it
 

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Look "Breh",

There is ZERO Reason for a cop to search my shyt, so I'm not giving one the "greenlight" to violate my personal space.

If they decide AFTER, I told them NO, that they "Smelled Marijuana", I KNOW EVEN FURTHER they are on some BULLSHYT.
I've NEVER SMOKED a Day in my Life.

They can make up some shyt to falsely search my car, but I AM NOT going to INITIALLY give them CONSENT!

I think he's deathly afraid of white people and continually will ask of black people to try to be on some sort of "prove yourself to them of being worthy of fair treatment" shyt
If a cop wants to escalate a situation and shoot you at a traffic stop then they will even if you say yes to everything like he's saying. There's no reason to self incriminate yourself and none of these answers prolong the stop except maybe not consenting to a search because they'll find other shyt to try to pin on you.

During the interrogations of the Baltimore Gun Trace Task Force serveral officers admitted that they wouldn't prolong stops with Black people that they thought were educated, middle class or acknowledged their rights. They were extremely corrupt, stole money, planted guns and drugs and literally said out of their own mouths that they avoid people who defended themselves and preyed on people who were poor, uneducated and emotional.
 

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If you're Black, your objective is to make the stop as short as possible, this means complying.

Complying ain't guaranteed you going home breh
:ufdup:

Give him the consent to search ya car if you want, watch he go to his evidence stash and you end up in cuffs because he magically found a baggie of coke in your center console
 

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Yeah being black and dealing with police is about LUCK. You can comply all you want to and admit to things they accuse you of all you want but police brutality is brought on by the officers themselves and has nothing to do with the conduct of the individual. That's why it's called BRUTALITY it implies excessive force than called for in the situation. You realize being detained for a simple traffic stop is NOT normal right? The officers escalate the situation so they can harm you in an attempt to cover their ass IF charges are brought up for harming you. If they want to then they will it's a matter of if they feel they can get away with it

If you're pulled over by police, even in a simple traffic stop, that's a temporary detainment.

I've said many times in this thread that if a cop is crooked and wants to harm you or plant drugs on you, then that's what they're going to do.
 

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During the interrogations of the Baltimore Gun Trace Task Force serveral officers admitted that they wouldn't prolong stops with Black people that they thought were educated, middle class or acknowledged their rights. They were extremely corrupt, stole money, planted guns and drugs and literally said out of their own mouths that they avoid people who defended themselves and preyed on people who were poor, uneducated and emotional.
Because those officers had psychopathic traits. Police is one of the main occupation that attracts psychopaths. If you look at serial killers who are majority psychopaths they tend to go after the people they can get away with killing with the least resistance. For them that is usually women. For police it's uneducated, impoverished, black people who the system will deem as threats and not perform a proper investigation on. They target us on purpose because they feel we're easily marks. Add in racist mentality to them and they already hate you for the color of your skin and you can easily see why this keeps happening.
 

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Complying ain't guaranteed you going home breh
:ufdup:

Give him the consent to search ya car if you want, watch he go to his evidence stash and you end up in cuffs because he magically found a baggie of coke in your center console

I'm not here making any guarantees and again, if a cop has intentions on planting drugs on you, then that's what he's going to do whether you consent to a search or not.
 

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Trying to argue with a cop in the streets
Never benefits you. A corrupt cop ain’t following the rules
Point out where in any of my statements did I suggest you argue with a cop. Point out in the original video, that it was suggested to argue with a cop. You have just erected a strawman to argue against in this discussion. Saying "no" to their request to search your vehicle is not arguing with them.
 

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Black people are twice as likely as white people to be shot and killed by police officers, that's reason enough to be "deathly" afraid. While I'm not deathly afraid of white people, I am acutely aware of what could happen while detained by police.

:manny:
True, but you don't abdicate your "Rights" because of that fear. You don't make yourself safer by making it easier for the police to mess you over without having to worry about any consequences of doing it. You be polite, respectful, but also assert your Rights. You end up in court, you have given your lawyer the tools needed to effectively defend you and also later on push for some redress. You hand over your "Rights" and you have just made yourself an easy mark for corrupt cops.
 
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