Dopest emcee to never have a classic album?

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I like OP but kn I'm close to negging him for saying dmx :wow:
 

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I can see when people say they dont like something on their opinion ... like I feel Busta has classic records
But I can see how its not bonafide classic because it wouldnt hit hard to everyone

I love canibus and he's one of my most listened artists, but I can see where someone wouldnt call Fait Accompli a classic

I dont think Jadakiss has a classic, but I wouldnt be mad if someone that liked him said it was to them.

You can even argue that The Eminem Show is a classic, even though I wasnt feeling it.... I could see where someone would think it was
I personally think Yeezus is a classic and I hate MDBTF and Late Registration... I guess being bonafide classic like doggystyle means appealing to everyone :yeshrug:

Redman, DMX, and Busta all have classics easily... saying you dont like Redman albums is crazy because he was so far ahead of his time. Ive never met a person
who didnt like Redman albums.
 

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I've always said Ludacris doesn't have a bonafide classic, but 2 personal classics for me.
 
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Tical is classic. Wtf you talking bout. You know you was bumping this in a Walkman or discman in the hallways at school or the block saying TICAL. EVERYONE WAS and if you say no you bullshytin
 

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none of that shyt was better than ssep.

I doubt nikkaz owned it at all.
when it dropped.
for real for real.
as well.
I doubt most people did at all.

yet people will use the jayz revise history decoder system 2000.
to rewrite history though.

it is just like someone trying to tell me they own the blackstar ten inch marketing vinyl.

when i know they probably do not from that same time.
nikkaz forget.
I actually reviewed those albums in real time.
I actually STILL OWN THOSE FIRST DAY RELEASES TO those albums.
ON vinyl if available to tape or Cd.
FROM the day those albums dropped.

this is in general.
so do not take the comments as personal.

I can not take any of you nikkaz reviews or comments as real.

As i know the real and i know nikkaz was not even around like that.

if they were it would not be the way it is.


nikkaz in here trying to defend nikkaz who not all the way thorough culturally in their pillar at the end of the day.
then, when they have not done the work.

they comE with a witch hunt.
I see the issue is fans really not in a pillar for real.
or part of hiphop actual culture for real. If they did.

there would not be a discussion at this point.
as they would have dug in the crate and have knowledge of self. Which i know they do not have. or it would be illustrated in every post. Plus prescient to uphold the culture in their self of being whole heartedly.
which i never read past my own posts.
all i read are inferior toys.
who will not and not fully dedicated to a pillar of discipline. Let alone being in one for real.

as everything toys discuss already has an edict in place.
at this point Jamar is being one of the narcissist his music is against. which is why all that religious war doctrine based rhetoric in his music. Is just color based content and talking points.
not a real evolution of culture and skill.
as Jamar can not talk.
as he souled't out.
in timeline way after the people he is critical of.
plus never made this dedication to skills.
amidst the actual technical revolution in the actual pillar of emcee'n.

thus subscribing to ol school way of thought phased out semantics.
not progressive mores and norms of new school way of thought ideals.
as Jamar is not that skilled. That is why at the end of the day. Most nikkaz is all talk.

they not really bout it at what they say they are.

plus want to create this fake field of play devoid of talent execution culture and knowledge. that use a counter culture to hip hop and it's edicts. ol or new school way of thought.
all cause their shyt is lacking in regards to.
dedication to themselves, pillar, the pillar'a full skill base and their culture.


be your pillar or stfu.



art Barr

if you confused reading this.
it is because you are a toy.

period.





art barr
 
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I dont think Jadakiss has a classic, but I wouldnt be mad if someone that liked him said it was to them.
Good post but I'm just quoting this part to highlight one issue.

I wouldn't be mad if someone thought Jadakiss had an album that they realy loved and it was a personal classic to them. And objectively the dude is one of my favorite rappers of all time, but he arguably doesn't even have a 4-mic album. I mean if anyone said to me that Kiss the Game Goodbye is a personal classic to hem...I would ask them what they even meant by that.
:jbhmm: I imagine they'd say because there are classic songs on it like We Gonna Make It, None of Ya'll Better, Show Discipline, Feel Me, Hands Up, and Knock Yourself Out, and maybe a couple others, right?

Okay, fine. Me too. But I really think you'd have to search high and low to find someone that doesn't skip at least 4 or 5 joints on that album.

So if "personal classic" just means that you like like half the songs on there a lot, then okay I guess. But why not just say that instead of tossing around the word classic and diluting the meaning.

Now days I feel like it's become fine for anyone to say something is a personal classic as long as it was decent and is more than 10 years old. I'm cool with throwing out the term personal classic if something is arguably a 4-mic album and has aged somewhat well. Like if someone said Cormega's first album was a personal classic, or if HNIC by Prodigy was a personal classic, I'd be on board. I don't know if I'm there with Kiss the Game Goodbye though.

I'm not trying to sound as grumpy as I'm sure it looks like I am. I'm just trying to throw out some thoughts. :hubie:
 

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Good post but I'm just quoting this part to highlight one issue.

I wouldn't be mad if someone thought Jadakiss had an album that they realy loved and it was a personal classic to them. And objectively the dude is one of my favorite rappers of all time, but he arguably doesn't even have a 4-mic album. I mean if anyone said to me that Kiss the Game Goodbye is a personal classic to hem...I would ask them what they even meant by that.
:jbhmm: I imagine they'd say because there are classic songs on it like We Gonna Make It, None of Ya'll Better, Show Discipline, Feel Me, Hands Up, and Knock Yourself Out, and maybe a couple others, right?

Okay, fine. Me too. But I really think you'd have to search high and low to find someone that doesn't skip at least 4 or 5 joints on that album.

So if "personal classic" just means that you like like half the songs on there a lot, then okay I guess. But why not just say that instead of tossing around the word classic and diluting the meaning.

Now days I feel like it's become fine for anyone to say something is a personal classic as long as it was decent and is more than 10 years old. I'm cool with throwing out the term personal classic if something is arguably a 4-mic album and has aged somewhat well. Like if someone said Cormega's first album was a personal classic, or if HNIC by Prodigy was a personal classic, I'd be on board. I don't know if I'm there with Kiss the Game Goodbye though.

I'm not trying to sound as grumpy as I'm sure it looks like I am. I'm just trying to throw out some thoughts. :hubie:
I 100% agree so technically id say "When disaster Strikes" aint really a classic... because there's a few songs hard to make it through on it.
Here's a good question and debate... would MF Doom have a classic album? or does this make him just a cult figure? because I cant picture
most people in the world listening to madvillian and thinking how crazy it is. I think we agree on whats really a classic...another one would be
rhythm-al-ism by DJ quik... its one of my favorite albums of all time. But I'd say its only 85-90% classic, towards the end he throws on vibey, filler songs.
I think it sort of sucks because both in his and Busta's case, they could have replaced songs easily for a better disc.. but technically speaking :yeshrug:
some tracks are skippable.
 
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