Dr. Dre Rejected Working With Michael Jackson, Prince, Stevie Wonder Outta Fear

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There's truly some ignorant idiot trash posters in The Booth. Let's look at the credits to "You Are Not Alone"

Produced By
Michael Jackson & R. Kelly
Written By
R. Kelly
Synthesiser & Programming
Peter Mokran, Andrew Scheps & Steve Porcaro
Background Vocals
R. Kelly

^^^ I'm guessing this exposes R. Kelly considering he didn't do programming or the synthesizer on this song


Credits to "Billie Jean":

Produced By
Quincy Jones & Michael Jackson
Written By
Michael Jackson
String Conductor
Jeremy Lubbock
String Arranger
Jerry Hey
Synthesizer Programmer
Bill Wolfer
Fender Rhodes
Greg Phillinganes
Drums
Leon “Ndugu” Chancler
Synthesizer
Michael Boddikker, Greg Smith & Bill Wolfer

Credits to "Human Nature":

Produced By
Quincy Jones

Written By
John Bettis & Steve Porcaro

Synthesizer Programmer
Steve Porcaro

Arranger
David Paich, Steve Lukather & Steve Porcaro

Guitar
Steve Lukather

Drums
Jeff Porcaro

Percussion
Paulinho da Costa

Emulator
Michael Boddikker

Synthesizer
Bill Wolfer, Greg Smith & David Paich

I could post more, since ignorant, idiot posters on The Booth actually think bringing in session musicians and having co-producers somehow exposes a producer's lack of talent.

Thanks for posting this. If they are calling Dre a phony because he uses session players and co-producers, then that would make Quincy and Prince and Mike phony producers as well.

Session players and co-producers are actually the norm in other genres of music. Hip-Hop is unique in that one producer handles all the production duties. If you make use of live instrumentation like Dre, OutKast and Organized Noise, you will be utilizing session players.
 

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He only did it to keep from becoming inexorable it seems. When he started messing with it, hip hop was well into its gangsta rap phase while he was pushing this new jack swing/ mc hammer sound

I can agree with this part, the execution was dated
 

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Thanks for posting this. If they are calling Dre a phony because he uses session players and co-producers, then that would make Quincy and Prince and Mike phony producers as well.

Session players and co-producers are actually the norm in other genres of music. Hip-Hop is unique in that one producer handles all the production duties. If you make use of live instrumentation like Dre, OutKast and Organized Noise, you will be utilizing session players.
Using session players don't make you a phony. Taking completed beats and putting your name on them does. And not even putting people collaborating on the beats in the credits is definitely some fake shyt. Two of the band members from Toto wrote Human Nature. Quincy took their demo, had the instruments replayed and THEY GOT CREDIT. Quincy produced it. In the credits, he didn't claim he wrote and created the whole thing.
 

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Using session players don't make you a phony. Taking completed beats and putting your name on them does. And not even putting people collaborating on the beats in the credits is definitely some fake shyt. Two of the band members from Toto wrote Human Nature. Quincy took their demo, had the instruments replayed and THEY GOT CREDIT. Quincy produced it. In the credits, he didn't claim he wrote and created the whole thing.

claims of Dre not giving people credit is just unproven speculation and accusations.

1. If Dre is a beat theif, why do all his session players co-producers get credit. From Yella to Hitman, to Scott? They all got their credits.

2. Given the value of Dre’s catalog, why haven’t the dudes making the accusations taken Dre to Court? Dre’s catalog is going to be worth nine figures.

The lengths that some on this board go to discredit the man is sad.
 

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All these “Dre is just too much of a perfectionist” talk is bullshyt. MJ was probably the biggest perfectionist in music history. It was literally beat into him as a child to produce perfection

Dre just didn’t wanna get found out. If they ended up in the studio and Dre was by himself he would’ve had a pack of beats ready if MJ couldn’t catch a vibe he’d be like

MJ: pull out your music equipment and let’s try to create something from scratch I can’t vibe with any of the beats you’ve played so far:ehh:


Dre: ................:merchant:
 

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All these “Dre is just too much of a perfectionist” talk is bullshyt. MJ was probably the biggest perfectionist in music history. It was literally beat into him as a child to produce perfection

Dre just didn’t wanna get found out. If they ended up in the studio and Dre was by himself he would’ve had a pack of beats ready if MJ couldn’t catch a vibe he’d be like

MJ: pull out your music equipment and let’s try to create something from scratch I can’t vibe with any of the beats you’ve played so far:ehh:


Dre: ................:merchant:

Mike and Quincy used more session players and co-producers than Dre ever did. :mjpls:
 

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claims of Dre not giving people credit is just unproven speculation and accusations.

1. If Dre is a beat theif, why do all his session players co-producers get credit. From Yella to Hitman, to Scott? They all got their credits.

2. Given the value of Dre’s catalog, why haven’t the dudes making the accusations taken Dre to Court? Dre’s catalog is going to be worth nine figures.

The lengths that some on this board go to discredit the man is sad.
I've already told you I wasn't there. I have no bone to pick with Dre. i don't know him and I've never met him, but these are quotes from people that were there. We must question everything we read and hear, but at the same time, we must not ignore things that go against people we are fans of. I guarantee you that I've bought more dre albums, cds, and tapes than you dating back to the 80s, so I have no agenda. I just supplied you with a direct quote from a former Interscope employee. It's happens in the industry. Didn't start with dre and won't end with him.
 
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