Dr. Umar Johnson: No African Community Ever Legitimized Being Gay

[Busted_Toes]

Have nothing to say huh?

I'm tired, watching Luke Cage. I'm not harming Gay people out here bruh.

Would this be romantic in the LGBT community?

 

[Pazzy]

I'm tired, watching Luke Cage. I'm not harming Gay people out here bruh.

Would this be romantic in the LGBT community?

Let me guess. You think that urine has to do with vaginal sex.

Please. Go on and show how ignorant you are.

And last time I checked, you can be straight and have anal sex too but see, we can't have these types of discussions because you aren't smart enough for them.

And you keep posting those pictures of shyt too. I'm not into scat but if that's your thing, more power to you. Stop speaking on thIngs you have no clue about.

 

[Busted_Toes]

Let me guess. You think that urine has to do with vaginal sex.

Please. Go on and show how ignorant you are.

And last time I checked, you can be straight and have anal sex too but see, we can't have these types of discussions because you aren't smart enough for them.

And you keep posting those pictures of shyt too. I'm not into scat but if that's your thing, more power to you. Stop speaking on thIngs you have no clue about.

Yeah bruh i'm not trying to argue with you.

 

[desjardins]

Was some good info in here until some weirdo started posting pics of shyt, wtf man

The problem with this is that most African societies had an oral tradition. It's possible any gay shyt was removed once white or Arab importers of religion arrived. The biggest factor now is that the two biggest religions in Africa,Christianity and Islam, were imported and they both condemn homosexuality. And Africans tend to be hype as shyt over those religions for whatever reason.
I'd be curious if any indigenous religions speak on homosexuality.

 

[NoChillJones]

It matters greatly. But i'll let you cook with your left wing liberal ideologies.

It really don't breh. Yall cats stay on this traditional idealism forgetting all the many variables that come into play with every sutuation. Molestation..child abuse..substance abuse...spousal abuse...bad parenting...neglect...now these examples occur in many households...and they are certainly not excluded from the traditional singlr family home. The problem with right wing fanaticsm is rarely ever speaks to reality....ever...its goes out its way to speak traditonal values but blurs the line when it comes to spreaking on the the very real negative undertones that often aide to disfigure these values are

 

[loyola llothta]

Homosexuality is worldwide and a part of all tribal societies

Sex with younger men was practiced in the Kingdom of Buganda (part of modern day Uganda) until the British took over. Part of the reason the British took over is because King Mwanga II was pissed that the white man's religion was making his Christian male servants resist his sexual advances. He then burned the Christians who were homophobic alive and the British used that as an excuse to take control

link? reference? or your just another white man telling half truth again

 

[VegasCAC]

link? reference? or your just another white man telling half truth again

Project MUSE - <i>Boy-Wives and Female Husbands: Studies of African Homosexualities</i> (review)

Peer reviewed research. From a review in an academic journal:

Murray and Roscoe conclude, ironically, that, "The colonialists did not introduce homosexuality to Africa but rather intolerance of it-and systems of surveillance and regulation for suppressing it" (p. xvi). Today's rabid attacks on homosexuality and self-described gays and lesbians by former freedom fighters and Presidents Nujoma of Namibia and Mugabe of Zimbabwe are, in part, the harvest of colonial prejudices.

Cordell, Dennis D. The International Journal of African Historical Studies 33.2 (2000): 472-74.

Edit: there's actually a PDF of the whole thing

http://www.arcados.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/MURRAY-ROSCOE-BOY-WIVES-FEMALE-HUSBANDS-98.pdf

It's an edited volume that surveys 50 African societies and has multiple authors

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Project MUSE - <i>Boy-Wives and Female Husbands: Studies of African Homosexualities</i> (review)

Peer reviewed research. From a review in an academic journal:

Murray and Roscoe conclude, ironically, that, "The colonialists did not introduce homosexuality to Africa but rather intolerance of it-and systems of surveillance and regulation for suppressing it" (p. xvi). Today's rabid attacks on homosexuality and self-described gays and lesbians by former freedom fighters and Presidents Nujoma of Namibia and Mugabe of Zimbabwe are, in part, the harvest of colonial prejudices.

Cordell, Dennis D. The International Journal of African Historical Studies 33.2 (2000): 472-74.

Edit: there's actually a PDF of the whole thing

http://www.arcados.ch/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/MURRAY-ROSCOE-BOY-WIVES-FEMALE-HUSBANDS-98.pdf

 

[VegasCAC]

What Umar Johnson is saying about Africa was invented by a racist white men

AMONG THE MANY MYTHS EUROPEANS HAVE CREATED ABOUT AFRICA, the myth that homosexuality is absent or incidental in African societies is one of the oldest and most enduring. For Europeans, black Africans, of all the native peoples of the world, most epitomized “primitive man.” Since primitive man was supposed to be close to nature, ruled by instinct, and culturally unsophisticated, he had to be heterosexual, his sexual energies and outlets devoted exclusively to their “natural” purpose: biological reproduction. If black Africans were the most primitive people in all humanity— if they were, indeed, human, which some debated— then they had to be the most heterosexual.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Umar johnson is 100% wrong...African societies did NOT have intolerance to homosexuality..they didnt promote it but they didnt kill nikkas for it either it was always more of an eccentricity for them.

Its the Cac and Sand Cacs who brought the intolerance through their fake azz religions

 

[Citi Trends]

This type of thinking is one of the reasons that holds us from unity. What ome man does in his own time with another consensual adult is his business

black people are never going to be "unified" like the damn thundercats. we just need to be on the same page
white people been pretty "unified" while making laws against homos and burning them at the stake so i highly doubt agreeing with homosexuality is a high priority when it comes to getting rid of white supremacy

 

[Crayola Coyote]

This type of thinking is one of the reasons that holds us from unity.
What ome man does in his own time with another consensual adult is his business

No it doesn't.

 

[Crayola Coyote]

No, he fights for the betterment of the race and the homosexuality agenda is counterproductive to the betterment of the race. You can't be pro black family and pro-gay agenda at the same time. It's a contradiction. If you want to be gay then be gay but homosexuality cannot be an agenda that we're pushing if we are serious about rebuilding the relationship between black men and women and the black family structure as a whole.

THIS

 

[Grano-Grano]

It really don't breh. Yall cats stay on this traditional idealism forgetting all the many variables that come into play with every sutuation. Molestation..child abuse..substance abuse...spousal abuse...bad parenting...neglect...now these examples occur in many households...and they are certainly not excluded from the traditional singlr family home. The problem with right wing fanaticsm is rarely ever speaks to reality....ever...its goes out its way to speak traditonal values but blurs the line when it comes to spreaking on the the very real negative undertones that often aide to disfigure these values are

STFU bro. That gay shyt didn't fly in my African society and I asked my mother and my grandparents. That shyt is western imposed and western made. You delusional af. It isn't a right or left wing thing. It's a societal structure thing. Homosexuality doesn't help the family or reproduce the population against war, famine, and diease. Facts.

 

[Crayola Coyote]

We got our usual suspects lying about homosexuality being a thing in ancient african cluture