Drew Brees is going to pass Peyton for most passing yards in the next two weeks....

[FabTrey]

this is why brady is the GOAT


brady home
32584 yards
241 tds
62 ints
98.6 rating

brady road
34219 yards
253 tds
100 ints
96.4 rating



brees home
37039 yards
287 tds
111 ints
102.0 rating

brees road
34484 yards
209 tds
117 ints
92.2 rating



brady threw more TDs on the road than home. brees threw so much more at home then on the road. and QB rating drops too much. brady at one point had virtually identical home/road QB rating.

 

[FabTrey]

Imagine if Peyton ain’t loose a whole year in the midst of his prime. Don’t forget that.

manning was slightly over the hill when he missed a season breh.

on the other hand, 2008 was brady's absolute peak year and he sat out all season.

brady would've had same squad and randy moss was still very motivated. and schedule was weak that year for the pats. brady would've thrown for 45tds 4500 yards easily that year. and remember when he came back in 2009, brady really wasn't brady. coming from that devastating injury brady was just not himself.

so if brady stayed healthy in 2008 - brady would've had the best 4 year stretch we've ever seen by a QB

2007 - 50 tds / 8ints (mvp year)
2008 - 43 tds / 11ints (conservative estimate - absolute peak year at age 31)
2009 - 35 tds / 8 ints (conservative estimate - brady threw 28tds /13 ints while looking like a dog crap half the season)
2010 - 36 tds / 4 ints (mvp year)
2011 - 39 tds / 12 ints

 

[horizon]

Brees not better than Peyton

Brees has volume stats, efficiency stats, intangibles, and beat Peyton to win the Super Bowl

There's no argument you could make putting Peyton over Brees

 

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Brees has volume stats, efficiency stats, intangibles, and beat Peyton to win the Super Bowl

There's no argument you could make putting Peyton over Brees

nikka please. Peyton was dominant for damn near two decades and is generally considered one of the top 3 qbs of all time

 

[horizon]

nikka please. Peyton was dominant for damn near two decades and is generally considered one of the top 3 qbs of all time

Peyton being top 3 is a media driven narrative

We have examples of this with QBs currently in the league i.e. Andrew Luck as the next John Elway etc

Numbers don't lie, facts only

 

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Peyton being top 3 is a media driven narrative

We have examples of this with QBs currently in the league i.e. Andrew Luck as the next John Elway etc

Numbers don't lie, facts only

Claim numbers don’t lie brehs

Overlook the fact that Peyton leads the nfl in yards, tds, MVPs. With two Super Bowls.

ya sick?

 

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Claim numbers don’t lie brehs

Overlook the fact that Peyton leads the nfl in yards, tds, MVPs. With two Super Bowls.

ya sick?

Peyton was a liability on that 2nd Super Bowl team or are we saying that throwing almost twice as many interceptions as touchdowns is something to be applauded? He was awful in the 2006 playoffs too but we'll let that win count for whatever it's worth. Speaking of playoff performances, is there any question that Peyton is the biggest choker in the history of the league?

Peyton has at least two MVPs he doesn't deserve

Brees is going to own all his records while being an unheralded 2nd round pick out of Purdue without the benefit of being a part of football's "royal family"

And Brees beat him in the Super Bowl while going on one of the best postseason runs of all time

 

[Llcoolbay]

For the amount of times this dude passes his completion % is insane

 

[LastManStanding]

a lot of ignorance / mainstream sports media brainwashing in this thread

anyone who knows football (outside of what ESPN tries to constantly indoctrinate people with) knows that Brees is the better QB. he's accomplished more with far less than both Brady and Rodgers.

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

As unbias as I can be...

Brady is definitely better. That's not a knock on Brees. But what Brady has done, and yes having a great coach and reliable defense helps, is enough for me to put him #1 of all time.

I think Brees is up there with Peyton though. Peyton was the golden boy. And Peyton was bad ass AF. I'm not gonna get red in the face or anything if people put Peyton over Drew.

Rodgers? This where I get people heated lol. Cuz I love Rodgers, I really do. But how Rodgers leapfrogged Drew as far as stature, I will have no idea. I honestly don't mind people believing he's better than Drew, but it's the fact people make it seem like it's undebatable that drives me. Look at the clip ol dude posted in this thread of Skip and Shannon. They just casually act as if it's an undeniable fact Rodgers is better than Brees. Well what makes it so undeniable? Rodgers 1 ring to Brees 1? That Brees numbers are equal if not better? Is it cuz Rodgers looks and has a few more physically gifted traits that propels him to being the new golden boy? I just don't get it. Again, I love Rodgers. But I will always argue down that Brees is just as if not better. And as a Saints fan, I hope Brees can get one or even two more rings (unlikely unfortunately with this shytty ass defense yet again playing the way they currently are) so I can really hear what would make Rodgers so much better then.

Back to that Skip and Shannon clip and it's stupidity... and why I don't take Skip seriously ever: Because I guarandamntee if Brees had the same career he has currently and did it with the Cowboys instead of the Saints, Skip would be hailing this dude as the GOAT. That is just one of many blatant examples of how playing for a bigger market can make the media propel players legacies over others.

 

[FabTrey]

As unbias as I can be, Brady is definitely better. That's not a knock on Brees. But what Brady has done, and yes having a great coach and reliable defense helps, is enough for me to put him #1 of all time.

I think Brees is up there with Peyton though. Peyton was the golden boy. And Peyton was bad ### AF. I'm not gonna get red in the face or anything if people put Peyton over Drew.

Rodgers? This where I get people heated lol. Cuz I love Rodgers, I really do. But how Rodgers leapfrogged Drew as far as stature, I will have no idea. I honestly don't mind people believing he's better than Drew, but it's the fact people make it seem like it's undebatable that drives me. Look at the clip ol dude posted in this thread of Skip and Shannon. They just casually act as if it's an undeniable fact Rodgers is better than Brees. Well what makes it so undeniable? Rodgers 1 ring to Brees 1? That Brees numbers are equal if not better? Is it cuz Rodgers looks and has a few more physically gifted traits that propels him to being the new golden boy? I just don't get it. Again, I love Rodgers. But I will always argue down that Brees is just as if not better. And as a Saints fan, I hope Brees can get one or even two more rings (unlikely unfortunately with this shytty ### defense yet again playing the way they currently are) so I can really hear what would make Rodgers so much better then.

Back to that Skip and Shannon clip and it's stupidity... and why I don't take Skip seriously ever: Because I guarandamntee if Brees had the same career he has currently and did it with the Cowboys instead of the Saints, Skip would be hailing this dude as the GOAT. That is just one of many blatant examples of how playing for a bigger market can make the media propel players legacies more than others.

although i think manning was better, i have no problem people saying brees is better than manning.
and absolutely brees does have argument against manning and rodgers.



brees ain't a sexy topic cuz he doesn't have that legend/aura of being a packer QB and is not a football loyalty like peyton manning who was heralded #1, the savior of the franchise. and you are right if brees accomplished same thing as a cowboy, then i'm certain media would've embraced him more

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

Wanna know another way the media crowns golden boys.

Take a look at these stats for one season:

A. 393/571, 68.8% completion, 4,500 yards passing, 33 TDs, 16 INTs, 14-2 record

vs

B. 363/514, 70.6% completion, 4,388 yards passing, 34 TDs, 11 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 13-3 record


Amazing seasons by both, but if you had to pick, who from those two would you pick for MVP?

Spoiler

Breaking: Peyton was A. Brees was B. Surprise surprise on who the media went with. Wonder who led his team to the Super Bowl victory that year.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Wanna know another way the media crowns golden boys.

Take a look at these stats for one season:

A. 393/571, 68.8% completion, 4,500 yards passing, 33 TDs, 16 INTs, 13-3 record

vs

B. 363/514, 70.6% completion, 4,388 yards passing, 34 TDs, 11 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 13-3 record


Amazing seasons by both, but if you had to pick, who from those two would you pick for MVP?

Spoiler

Breaking: Peyton was A. Brees was B. Surprise surprise on who the media went with. Wonder who led his team to the Super Bowl victory that year.

I don't think what you posted showcased some huge wrongdoing. Shoot...they both faced off in the Super Bowl.

Home and Away splits to me show the stark difference. Manning although in the dome was a winner away from home while brees is barely above .500.

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

I don't think what you posted showcased some huge wrongdoing. Shoot...they both faced off in the Super Bowl.

Home and Away splits to me show the stark difference. Manning although in the dome was a winner away from home while brees is barely above .500.

It does because if the numbers were reversed and Peyton had season B and Brees had season A, who would the media have given MVP to then? It's not a hard answer lol.

Manning's name value and golden boy aura gave him the award that year. It's apples and oranges when you really crunch their numbers that season I know. But it's obvious the media went with their golden boy QB when if it boils down to stats that close, you simply should go with the one who was better, no matter how little his "better" was than the other person.

But Peyton is Peyton so they were like " , we gotta give our future GOAT Peyton his 3rd MVP !"

Bill Simmons (I guess as a Pats fan you can say he was biased) was the only one calling out the media for this too.

 

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It does because if the numbers were reversed and Peyton had season B and Brees had season A, who would the media have given MVP to then? It's not a hard answer lol.

Manning's name value and golden boy aura gave him the award that year. It's apples and oranges when you really crunch their numbers that season I know. But it's obvious the media went with their golden boy QB when if it boils down to stats that close, you simply should go with the one who was better, no matter how little his "better" was than the other person.

But Peyton is Peyton so they were like " , we gotta give our future GOAT Peyton his 3rd MVP !"

Bill Simmons (I guess as a Pats fan you can say he was biased) was the only one calling out the media for this too.

Wanna know another way the media crowns golden boys.

Take a look at these stats for one season:

A. 393/571, 68.8% completion, 4,500 yards passing, 33 TDs, 16 INTs, 13-3 record

vs

B. 363/514, 70.6% completion, 4,388 yards passing, 34 TDs, 11 INTs, 2 rushing TDs, 13-3 record


Amazing seasons by both, but if you had to pick, who from those two would you pick for MVP?

Spoiler

Breaking: Peyton was A. Brees was B. Surprise surprise on who the media went with. Wonder who led his team to the Super Bowl victory that year.

Well this not all the way true. The colts finished 14-2 that year. So one game better than the saints.

And the colts defense fukking blew it that super bowl.