Elway was overrated right?

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A NY sports radio host I listen to daily said this week that Elway was comparable to Mahomes based on ability, but that Mahomes is considered better because the Chiefs with Andy Reid are better than those 80s Broncos teams that could killed by WAS, Giants, and 49ers. I was like :what: :mjlol: listening to that. Elway was physically talented player no doubt, but even in his prime his stats were average at best. Pundits like Wilbon talk him up like he’s one of the greats and it’s just wasn’t true. Someone in the AFC in the 80s had to take those losses in the Super Bowl and the Broncos were that team three times.
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Josh Allen>John Elway

Allen is a souped up elway
 
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Elway was an exciting player. Had lot of memorable comebacks and clutch moments.
Great athlete. He used to "win with his legs" and scramble and run for 1st downs all the time.
I cringed when the same broadcasters started using that phrase to undermine Black QBs years later, having never used it for Elway or Steve Young.

He made 5 Superbowl appearances, so you can't really call him over rated. Somebody dominated the AFC playoffs those years.
 
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I'm My uncle is a elway Stan and thinks base on pure talent elway is the GOAT he always said if the 49ers colts traded would've went thru in the 1983 draft elway would've been the goat but people need to look the the teams elway dragged in the Super Bowl in the 80s :scusthov:
 
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A NY sports radio host I listen to daily said this week that Elway was comparable to Mahomes based on ability, but that Mahomes is considered better because the Chiefs with Andy Reid are better than those 80s Broncos teams that could killed by WAS, Giants, and 49ers. I was like :what: :mjlol: listening to that. Elway was physically talented player no doubt, but even in his prime his stats were average at best. Pundits like Wilbon talk him up like he’s one of the greats and it’s just wasn’t true. Someone in the AFC in the 80s had to take those losses in the Super Bowl and the Broncos were that team three times.
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Elway 2x as better than Mahomes. Without the refs Mahomes is mid

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Josh Allen>John Elway

Allen is a souped up elway
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Allen is faster. Thats the only thing hes better at than Elway
 
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I think what helps Elway is just how DRASTIC his stats increase was with Shanahan

It made people realize "hmm, maybe Elway could have been putting up better numbers if he had a better oc/system :lupe: "


Remember: Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Brett Favre ALL played on west coast offenses that are KNOWN for generating easy completions. That boosts efficiency (completion percentage, yards, lowers int %).

Look at Mahomes this year and how the Chiefs offense is largely just schemes up drag routes

The Marino offense in Miami was spread out with Marino throwing downfield to wicked fast receivers against basic run-stopping defenses

Meanwhile Elway played in an old school run first pass second offense
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He was still blown out the water by the elite QBs in his time

Like with Shanny he graduated to peak Bernie Kosar Status
 
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