Enough talk! The Pro-Black Action Thread

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I feel you; but, we're not going to do it alone.

Help is nothing to be ashamed of. As long as the leverage stays on our side.

The number one reasons I'm not for "going back to Africa" is because that would be sayin' "Sorry Rosa Parks, it was too hard, we quit." No, we deserve to hold the judicial system, politicians and the economic sector to a standard when that take so much away from us.

I like the idea, of the thread, though.

How will we do that when we essentially have no government, power, or allies? How many countries will even make a statement regarding the US's treatment of black people, much less impose sanctions or go to war for us?

There's about 35 million black people vs 200+ million whites. How do we fight an enemy in their land and by their rules with 0 support from the outside?

And I'm not asking these questions because I'm saying you should go back to Africa. Only those who are willing to go should go. I'm just curious to hear what your plan would be and exactly how you'd accomplish it.
 

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we need to invest our minds more into technology and science
that is especially true for african countries
 

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How will we do that when we essentially have no government, power, or allies? How many countries will even make a statement regarding the US's treatment of black people, much less impose sanctions or go to war for us?

There's about 35 million black people vs 200+ million whites. How do we fight an enemy in their land and by their rules with 0 support from the outside?

And I'm not asking these questions because I'm saying you should go back to Africa. Only those who are willing to go should go. I'm just curious to hear what your plan would be and exactly how you'd accomplish it.

Read my first post, in the thread for my ideas.

We shouldn't be lookin' for any other country to help us, yet. Really who are "us?"

The reason I usually bring up the fact we aren't a monolith is there isn't too much real unity, with blacks in America. The best I can think of is frats and sororities and that seems to be more about private economic empowerment.

I'm not goin' back to Africa. I always wonder why we think that's gonna work--starting all over in a foreign country--when we don't even, half way, have it together, here.

It's real complex issue and I don't wanna lecture anybody about something I'm still trying to learn, myself--I'll just answer your post.

No government power? That's not true. We are voters and when motivated, we will vote (see Obama '08, '12) and get involved. The only problem; we didn't hold Obama to real standards (lol @ the Obama effect) and deified him. Has he been terrible for black people? Not at all; he's done everything the black voter base asked of him; no drama and make us "look good." Unfortunately, anytime anyone dared held his feet to the fire (in the name of more substantive issues), like any politician should, they were called "haters" and "c00ns." Dr. West was doin'--rather you agree with him or not--what we should all been doin'--challenging the president to earn our vote.

My point; continue to be involved in the government that taxes us and puts a police presence in our neighborhood. And not to limit that involvement to national elections.

White people aren't our enemy. Our biggest enemy is capitalism (consumerism, precisely).

Our buying power is enough to run a small country, but, we don't understand how to spend our money (something I need to learn, better). And not a lot of us have generational wealth. I'm politically neutral, but, my biggest beef with republicans is this lie they tell of pulling themselves by their boot straps. Most of them come from generational wealth.

One reason I don't get on black entertainers much is; they are empowered by a system that doesn't allow them to "revolt."

When Warner and Universal are lining your pockets and people want you to "militant it" up, they miss the fact that; such-and-such is only that wealthy and influential because he/she empowers the system. The minute they revolt, the system takes that money and influence and it means nothing. Does it mean; keep selling out? No. But, I'm an adult and realize a lot of these dudes are in debt and got bills to pay. They can't just up and say "F my bosses" and the system that made them billionaires. It's a tricky situation.

Anything we do is gonna have to be baby steps. Our first move should be fixing our families and neighborhoods and then moving on to the next step.

It's such a big, complex issue...
 

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Read my first post, in the thread for my ideas.

We shouldn't be lookin' for any other country to help us, yet. Really who are "us?"

The reason I usually bring up the fact we aren't a monolith is there isn't too much real unity, with blacks in America. The best I can think of is frats and sororities and that seems to be more about private economic empowerment.

I'm not goin' back to Africa. I always wonder why we think that's gonna work--starting all over in a foreign country--when we don't even, half way, have it together, here.

It's real complex issue and I don't wanna lecture anybody about something I'm still trying to learn, myself--I'll just answer your post.

No government power? That's not true. We are voters and when motivated, we will vote (see Obama '08, '12) and get involved. The only problem; we didn't hold Obama to real standards (lol @ the Obama effect) and deified him. Has he been terrible for black people? Not at all; he's done everything the black voter base asked of him; no drama and make us "look good." Unfortunately, anytime anyone dared held his feet to the fire (in the name of more substantive issues), like any politician should, they were called "haters" and "c00ns." Dr. West was doin'--rather you agree with him or not--what we should all been doin'--challenging the president to earn our vote.

My point; continue to be involved in the government that taxes us and puts a police presence in our neighborhood. And not to limit that involvement to national elections.

White people aren't our enemy. Our biggest enemy is capitalism (consumerism, precisely).

Our buying power is enough to run a small country, but, we don't understand how to spend our money (something I need to learn, better). And not a lot of us have generational wealth. I'm politically neutral, but, my biggest beef with republicans is this lie they tell of pulling themselves by their boot straps. Most of them come from generational wealth.

One reason I don't get on black entertainers much is; they are empowered by a system that doesn't allow them to "revolt."

When Warner and Universal are lining your pockets and people want you to "militant it" up, they miss the fact that; such-and-such is only that wealthy and influential because he/she empowers the system. The minute they revolt, the system takes that money and influence and it means nothing. Does it mean; keep selling out? No. But, I'm an adult and realize a lot of these dudes are in debt and got bills to pay. They can't just up and say "F my bosses" and the system that made them billionaires. It's a tricky situation.

Anything we do is gonna have to be baby steps. Our first move should be fixing our families and neighborhoods and then moving on to the next step.

It's such a big, complex issue...

Y'all nikkas and these long ass posts man :why:

You mean you couldn't make that shyt more concise :damn:
 

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I think we have to work on love of self and each other first for any economic, academic or political endeavors to be successful.
 

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I feel you; but, we're not going to do it alone.

Help is nothing to be ashamed of. As long as the leverage stays on our side.

The number one reasons I'm not for "going back to Africa" is because that would be sayin' "Sorry Rosa Parks, it was too hard, we quit." No, we deserve to hold the judicial system, politicians and the economic sector to a standard when that take so much away from us.

I like the idea, of the thread, though.


Well not only that, but don't think they are all going to be on some "Welcome Home" stuff. My sons mother is from Trinidad and her mother hated my guts because I was African American, and even then I continued to treat her with respect but continued to hear " Yall don't have any values" blah blah. and my mother has stories for days about the Africans on her job with the same mindset. For the peeps who want to go back, more power to you though.
 

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Part of my problem is how functionally undereducated and unreasonable the black community is when it comes to:

1. Science.

2. Healthcare.

3. Religion.


4. Social conservatism (i.e. homophobia, etc.)


If black folks in America really got off that bullshyt, then we could do SO MUCH MORE and be on the same page.

Frankly, some of the under-educated shyt I hear on the board is enough to make me want to distance myself from some of the goals you have.
 

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There is already such a strong sense of unity and history within the Jewish community, so I can see why this could happen.

But do you think, with all these black celebrities we have we, can raise enough money to fund these poor kids out of the poor inner cities to teach them where they came from? Look how hard it is to trust and work with black businesses in our own community.

It seems like a long shot but I would like to see a program like that get off the ground. Also their is more to Africa then slavery. But if you notice, they are going to Israel, NOT Auschwitz. They are instillling PRIDE to the youngsters, not fear and hopelessness. Hell, when most kids learn about black history, its about Charles Drew, George Washington Carver and slavery. Not to diminish the accomplishments of those men, but of course their is a lot more to Black history then just them and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Our history started in Africa and it is imperative to start a program that shows kids the history that won't be taught in public schools. Like Benin City and Nok.

Jews are linked by religion...that kinda helps them.

Theres not a lot linking people with "THIS MUCH" melanin for that sake alone.

Africa is so diverse, it'd blow your mind.

hell, in one village you can have like 5 different ethnic groups.

In fact, I heard that the average black american is more genetically similar than any two random people in any african country.
 

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we need to invest our minds more into technology and science
that is especially true for african countries

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THE ONLY SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM IS NATIONALISM.
BOYCOTTS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION.
MARCHING IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
SINGING 'WE SHALL OVERCOME' IS NOT THE SOLUTION.


OUR ONLY CHANCE AT SURVIVING IN THIS COUNTRY IS BLACK NATIONALISM AND BLACK POWER.

IF YOU'RE IN NY

COME TO THE BK NATION MEETING AUGUST 28TH 2013 AT 7PM 55 WASHINGTON SQUARE CHURCH

BK nation is not a Black nationalist group, but I want to have more like minded Black nationalist people THERE to chop up game with.
 

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THE ONLY SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM IS NATIONALISM.
BOYCOTTS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION.
MARCHING IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
SINGING 'WE SHALL OVERCOME' IS NOT THE SOLUTION.


OUR ONLY CHANCE AT SURVIVING IN THIS COUNTRY IS BLACK NATIONALISM AND BLACK POWER.

IF YOU'RE IN NY

COME TO THE BK NATION MEETING AUGUST 28TH 2013 AT 7PM 55 WASHINGTON SQUARE CHURCH

BK nation is not a Black nationalist group, but I want to have more like minded Black nationalist people THERE to chop up game with.

Why not pool our money and invest in Africa? Seriously fukk America.
 

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Jews are linked by religion...that kinda helps them.

Theres not a lot linking people with "THIS MUCH" melanin for that sake alone.

Africa is so diverse, it'd blow your mind.

hell, in one village you can have like 5 different ethnic groups.

In fact, I heard that the average black american is more genetically similar than any two random people in any african country.
They don't have to go from country to country.

They can just pick a country, work with the government and set up relations with them.

I suggest a "stable", English speaking nation like Nigeria, and see civilizations like Benin City, Yoruba, Igbo, etc. But their is risks involved of course. If tourists and Chinese investors can get in safely, then a film-trip of American black kids can too. They just have to stay away from the Delta region lol.

I am aware that Africa and Africans are genetically the most diverse people in the world. But that shouldn't stop us from setting up relations with them. A program like this could set up for future relations with that country. It could restart a pan-African movement or something. You say Jews are linked by religion, well, they are also a diverse people, and they come from N. Africa, Germany, Russia, Spain, etc. Most American blacks are Christians, and so is Southern Nigeria. We are both English speaking people as well. This could open a lot of doors if we play our cards right.
 
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