Erick Sermon Gives SHOCKING Reason He Didn’t Produce On Nas Illmatic • DoggieDiamonds

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Man gtfoh. U nikkas buggin even Biggie himself didn’t believe he shoulda got that shyt. Biggie EARNED lyricist of the year over Nas cause of some fukkin shows? Bottom line. Biggie had a Diddy. Nas didn’t. Politics. That’s like we both get passing grades on a test. I get 100 and u get a 90. The teacher awards u for having the best grade.


you keep giving passes.
to be lyricist of the year.
you have to perform said lyrics and not have issues with rockin shows and being prompt.
this is part of being an emcee.
not squandering your opportunities as you never get another one to make up for it.
especially, opportunities that were closed in booking.

you can try to flip and bounce it all you want.
yet, you are excusing performing like being an emcee is only in the writing stage and not the actual whole full gamut to performance.

you giving passes.

nas would have easily won if he rocked.
I believe you were not cognitive.
as a nas fan before illmatic culturally to give all these passes.

like real talk,...what was your crew, your tag, your pillar?
before 1994.
as you are camping for semantics. That culturally makes no full sense to validate giving passes after all this time.



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Motherfukkers really on here arguing big won lyricist of the year based on his work ethic n doing shows? lol. I can't...

Big won the award because his album sold n had hit singles that stayed on the radio. His overall impact.
His year was Ubiquitous and omnipresent. Whichever one you prefer
The Source went "pop" to give big the award

Big won the award n said he needs to step his game up because of illmatic.

Biggest Impact: Big
Lyricist of the year: Nas
 

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Nobody said he only won the award due to shows. I said he earned it on every level. They both released classic albums with great lyrics. One artist had multiple hits, sold well, had an incredible album with great lyrics, and was by an artist who literally did every function and event possible for rap media and promoters. One artist didn't really have any hits, under sold, had an incredible album with great lyrics, and largely didn't perform or attend functions even after agreeing to do so. Who should win? Come on.

Brehs acting like Craig Mack won lyricist of the year over Nas.
 

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Bassline would have been right there on a similar vibe to 'Halftime' too :ehh:

What about Nas on 'A Miilion And One Buddah Spots' or 'Cosmic Slop' off 'Dare Iz A Darkside', though? :lupe:

Or 'Can't Wait' :banderas:
i was gonna say. i could totally hear nas on dare iz a darkside beats
 

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Come on yall..lol

We talking Source Awards wins? We all know Death Row and Bad Boy pumped a ton of money to David Mays and Benzino/The Source for those looks.
 

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All the while Nas, Jay, AZ, and Rae were on the don shyt, the real nikkas down south in No Limit took they ball and never looked back. Either had them nikkas hating or collabing with em

All because Nas was scared to drop another album not better than Illmatic so he soul'd out and used a false narrative perpetrated by him and Stoute

And I say this as a nas stan
 

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Saying illmatic under sold insinuates there was big sales expectations. Don't lie to me man. I was there. The sales thing was people bemoaning the fact that the album was such a classic it should've sold more. But in comparison to the times/era, it did well. Most of us didn't even know how heavily the album was bootlegged till years later.

Dude @Piff Perkins, lyricist of the year is not politics. You don't get points for glad-handing n kissing babies. You're judged by the lyrical abilities on the album. Full stop.
Big himself recognized that n admitted he needed to step his game up. FACTS
 

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Motherfukkers really on here arguing big won lyricist of the year based on his work ethic n doing shows? lol. I can't...

Big won the award because his album sold n had hit singles that stayed on the radio. His overall impact.
His year was Ubiquitous and omnipresent. Whichever one you prefer
The Source went "pop" to give big the award

Big won the award n said he needs to step his game up because of illmatic.

Biggest Impact: Big
Lyricist of the year: Nas


how are you going to win a culture based award and you no shows shows.
that is a no no as an emcee.
big was basically a what if heavy d was a gangsta rapper.
yet nas allowed that to take place because he failed to respond to his bookings.
when and how it was put in the source politically that is true.
plus, nas created the windfall culturally foe big's impact on his rnb heavy singles. Which were taboo then.
by releasing the one love rnb remix. Which now discontinued nas being oh so more cultural than big as well.

factually nas did it to himself and he continued to do it as well.
if nas stuck culturally to what makes an emcee great.
without a force md's rnb style hook on remixes.
if he would have rocked.
he could have easily beat big.
yet nas allowed those things to happen and since they occurred he gave them the opportunity to do so.
as an emcee you never give anyone the opportunity to create destruction of uour draw from your own cultural missteps. When nas misstepped culturally.

just as with iww. It created and left him open to criticism and questions.
nas would never have been under.


nas created why he lost.
big did everything centered around nas's losses to win.

it was on nas to lose and nas gave them the opportunity to lose.

taking the culture for granted.


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Come on yall..lol

We talking Source Awards wins? We all know Death Row and Bad Boy pumped a ton of money to David Mays and Benzino/The Source for those looks.


yet nas gave the source in that transistion the opportunity to snake him.

when, culturally as an emcee you are supposed to handle everything on your part. To keep someone from the opportunity.
to create the political opening.
to try to bring on the destruction of your draw.
to do wtf the source did then.

when nas souled out.

he even hurt himself in the launch of xxl.
as even xxl had to move away from the sweetspot culturally.
as nas the herald had souled out and done wtf they left the source for in the first place.

so now you got nas.
who becames anakin turned darth Vader, to rap and hip hop culturally.
leaving no other hope of upper skilled newcomer culturally in the midatlantic seaboard.
in the mecca of all places. So that allowed the choice for big and jiggy to take precedence. All because nas did not do his job culturally.
all the way as an emcee period.
with attention to the performance side.
plus he also succumbed and had rnb taboo remixes.
in an era where an mca affiliated family tree producer in PETE rock.
showd allegiance to being supremely cultural and set things back on point with the shut em down remix to draw emphasis.
to the thr world is yours remix and the best remix rap video ever as well. That umo, created fly whip visual. That would be misappropriated as the jiffy go to visually as well.
instead if nas never made the later one love rnb remix. opening the door for big to seem culturally comparable in artistry.
then in a desperately sellout culture thief climate that could ruin it all. Nas has the same style of recordings. That opens three culturally misappropriated doors for jiggy to take over.
what did nas do.
totally turn it back to the force md rnb meets mca father mc meets tough guy ol school way of thought record.

so nas created the criteria for big to pull up and win.

how are we excusing him of this.

do people not own the twelves on time as they were originally released to discuss this. are people speaking from a cognitive place. full knowing what occurred culturally in full.


nas did it to himself.

especially when we learned later on nas was the best and first nonhook singer on the hook with gimme yours. Featured on az. Who also gained sway by smartly using miss jones from don't front.

Plus could have ushered in a whole new cultural take on doing things in that manner.

instead he gave it right back to the semantics. That ruined why he almost never got on to begin with...plus perpetrated why jiggy and biggie became dominant to him commercially as well.

nas did it to himself. When all he had to do was stay organic.
if nas did that we would all have high quality music and the culture would still be aligned with the business of rap.
as a profitable grassroot avenue culturally for those skilled in the correlated pillars in business as well.



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yet nas gave the source in that transistion the opportunity to snake him.

when, culturally as an emcee you are supposed to handle everything on your part. To keep someone from the opportunity.
to create the political opening.
to try to bring on the destruction of your draw.
to do wtf the source did then.

when nas souled out.

he even hurt himself in the launch of xxl.
as even xxl had to move away from the sweetspot culturally.
as nas the herald had souled out and done wtf they left the source for in the first place.

so now you got nas.
who becames anakin turned darth Vader, to rap and hip hop culturally.
leaving no other hope of upper skilled newcomer culturally in the midatlantic seaboard.
in the mecca of all places. So that allowed the choice for big and jiggy to take precedence. All because nas did not do his job culturally.
all the way as an emcee period.
with attention to the performance side.
plus he also succumbed and had rnb taboo remixes.
in an era where an mca affiliated family tree producer in PETE rock.
showd allegiance to being supremely cultural and set things back on point with the shut em down remix to draw emphasis.
to the thr world is yours remix and the best remix rap video ever as well. That umo, created fly whip visual. That would be misappropriated as the jiffy go to visually as well.
instead if nas never made the later one love rnb remix. one ign the door for big to seem culturally comparable in artistry.
then in a desperately sellout culture thief climate that could ruin it all. Nas has the same style of recordings. That opens three culturally misappropriated doors for jiggy to take over.
what did nas do.
totally turn it back to the force md rnb meets mca father mc meets tough guy ol school way of thought record.

so nas created the criteria for big to pull up and win.

how are we excusing him of this.

do people not own the twelves on time as they were originally released to discuss this. are people speaking from a cognitive place. full knowing what occurred culturally in full.


nas did it to himself.

especially when we learned later on nas was the best and first nonhook singer on the hook with gimme yours.

Plus could have ushered in a whole new cultural take on doing things in that manner.

instead he gave it right back to the semantics. That ruined why he almost never got on to begin with...plus perpetrated why jiggy and biggie became dominant to him commercially as well.

nas did it to himself. When all he had to do was stay organic.
if nas did that we would all have high quality music and the culture would still be aligned with the business of rap.
as a profitable grassroot avenue culturally for those skilled in the correlated pillars in business as well.



art barr


Art.. dawg

Nas first time out and you saying he was supposed to be music business and politics savy? Bro come on..

Nas wasnt thinking on that. And Donny Ienner from Columbia Records wasnt caring bout no black rapper to the extent Puffy and Suge was. Bro stop..

Now if Stoute would have been around then, yeah I could see this being on a more even playing field..
 

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how are you going to win a culture based award and you no shows shows.
that is a no no as an emcee.
big was basically a what if heavy d was a gangsta rapper.
yet nas allowed that to take place because he failed to respond to his bookings.
when and how it was put in the source politically that is true.
plus, nas created the windfall culturally foe big's impact on his rnb heavy singles. Which were taboo then.
by releasing the one love rnb remix. Which now discontinued nas being oh so more cultural than big as well.

factually nas did it to himself and he continued to do it as well.
if nas stuck culturally to what makes an emcee great.
without a force md's rnb style hook on remixes.
if he would have rocked.
he could have easily beat big.
yet nas allowed those things to happen and since they occurred he gave them the opportunity to do so.
as an emcee you never give anyone the opportunity to create destruction of uour draw from your own cultural missteps. When nas misstepped culturally.

just as with iww. It created and left him open to criticism and questions.
nas would never have been under.


nas created why he lost.
big did everything centered around nas's losses to win.

it was on nas to lose and nas gave them the opportunity to lose.

taking the culture for granted.


art barr

All facts. Matter of fact, there is no Against All Odds or Takeova records without IWW. Nas lowered himself and soul'd out
 

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All facts. Matter of fact, there is no Against All Odds or Takeova records without IWW. Nas lowered himself and soul'd out
Son gtfoh. Without IWW. Nas is a memory. IM a nikka that had Illmatic on release. MOST nikkas didn’t. Jay Z talkin bout soul’d out when he had shyt like Sunshine in the same era. Biggie had all kinda fukkin disco samples n RnB shyt. U nikkas is weird. And Against All Odds. Pac was criticizing ILLMATIC Nas more than IWW. Talkin bout he was biting Rakim n shyt. Pac literally listened to IWW and got the idea for a song on that SAME album. Me And My Girlfriend. Wanna know what album Pac was bumpin all thru Vegas? IWW.
 

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Art.. dawg

Nas first time out and you saying he was supposed to be music business and politics savy? Bro come on..

Nas wasnt thinking on that. And Donny Ienner from Columbia Records wasnt caring bout no black rapper to the extent Puffy and Suge was. Bro stop..

Now if Stoute would have been around then, yeah I could see this being on a more even playing field..



Stop.

Nas was the herald to all the guys who saved hiphop and rap.
from being ushered right back into the old school rap is a fad era 1983 a decade or more later from ice and hammer, in the early nineties.

trying to excuse him of this.
is just as asinine of excusing nas of saying he never heard of pharoah monch. when asked about I gave you power.
when he came from large p and Paul c's family tree.


art barr

I wonder how many usuals are from the era when nas did that I do not know of pharoah month.
when the both was from queens and from the family tree of PAUL c.




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