Even with college degrees, blacks struggle to launch careers

[Serious]

It does, but I hope you're seriously thinking about going to the graduate level.

I was i'm though

 

[Jhoon]

Problem is, people do that and still getting underpaid. That is something fundamentally wrong with the economy. Stop getting these skills that employers underpay you for. Work for yourself.

In the land where corporations are real, even in theory you can't be your own man.

 

[Wild self]

In the land where corporations are real, even in theory you can't be your own man.

Yeah, but the corporations don't own everything. Even startups using whatever degree you have, you can cake heavily on the internet.

 

[Serious]

Yeah, but the corporations don't own everything. Even startups using whatever degree you have, you can cake heavily on the internet.

Look man in 2015, cats just need to understand a few concepts about supply and demand, and investing. Always look for ways to make money back on investments...

 

[Rice'N Beckford]

Well...
depends on the circumstances.

Here is the thing, from personal experience, A LOT of jobs actually give you a stipend or pay for your housing during a co-op and interships. In the engineering field which I'm familiar with, the only folks offering "unpaid" internships were the big big techcompanies like Intel, Microsoft, and Apple or a few other silicon valley based companies because they probably feel that they can get away with it under the guise of "Hey if you intern with Intel it will look great on your resume, why do you need money? :D". However, at my school at least, if you co-op you're guarenteed to get paid and most co-ops were making 2k -3k a month on top of paid for housing. Internships were a bit different and varied much more.

So from my experience, you get a nice chunk of change if you're will to work for other companies besides the big recognizable ones and it was in engineering for example.

Thats the thing. Not every school has the resources for co-op sponships, some students dont make gpa requirements, and some people have prior commitments where they can't leave their home for months.

Its just varies, its just that ppl just think "well if you woulda interned somewhere you'd be alot successful" I know me personally, my unpaid internships didn't do shyt but give me resume talking points

 

[Rice'N Beckford]

Are you a child? Seriously, dude.

???? How am I a child? explain. What did I say in this post that was childish? This is shyt I've exp

 

[Rice'N Beckford]

But you expect to get full time work without showing you can do the work?

Never said that, just stating my opinion that the entire "internship here= job" thing isn't true. ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

 

[MikelArteta]

I feeeel this.

I tried the corporate job thing and "played the game" and once I realized these white people HATED me no matter what, I knew I had to start my own business. shyt is cause now that I understand that it's rigged I can foresee what my battle and challenges are. It is downright scary. But I have to find a way or imma kill one of these motherfukkas in an office. I just couldn't take feeling like they were literally trying to crush my soul everyday.

And I'm a black female so I know I was meeting a quota in that office. There were two other black women and once I got hired they got rid of one . I saw the storm brewing and it hurt my soul to know I hurt my people for simply wanting to earn a living. Then I saw them slowly dismantle the BEST worker they had who was a BLACK MAN with a degree from Stanford. That is when I learned them degrees mean shyt to these mothafukkas. They purely hate you. He was intelligent and training everyone and putting the managers in their place, respectfully. But they couldn't handle that shyt. It's like they couldn't compute "intelligence" from ANYONE. They literally dismantled this man's job and "disappeared" him one day. shyt is when I think too hard about it.

And him and the woman they fired were real OGs I could have gained so much game from. The only other black women there was c00ning and most of the time so I could only take so much of her. I was on an island dying of starvation working there. And since I was gracefully dogging their bullets their hate and vengeance grew for me one day. Eventually they picked me off too but I'm 100% at peace with creating my own job now cause that shyt is not the business.

thats how it is in most office/corporate environments.

Small companies rarely hire minorities, and the big ones only for quota purposes/diversification. A black woman strikes off two boxes a woman and someone of colour, so when outside consulting firms/pr/magazines do their little stories or ratings at the end of they ear they can spew that diversity crap

 

[acri1]

you know whats funny i see cacs with long hair, or big ass hipster beards etc., or tatted sleeves and ish

but if its a black man its unprofessional

Personally I have long (sometimes kinda frizzy) dreads that I'm kinda lazy about keeping up and its never kept me from getting a job. IMO black people worry too much about what a white person might hypothetically think about their hair. Something like that might be used as an excuse not to hire someone they weren't going to hire anyway, but I don't really think having long hair is really costing nyggas jobs that they would otherwise get.

 

[Midrash]

I never see asians majoring in bullshyt though.

I know and it's it fukked up that they make better grades than white students yet have harder times getting good management jobs and into positions of leadership. Same BS with Indians too.


That's why I don't much attention to the "If we behaved ourselves, we could be as successful as everyone else" tip. It's funny because the model minority is a myth and has damaging effects on the ability of high performing minorities.

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/01/08/dismantling-the-model-minority-myth/
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/29/u...americans-face-widespread-discrimination.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-asians-hit-the-bamboo-ceiling/
http://read.hipporeads.com/debunkin...ys-asian-americans-still-face-discrimination/

 

[Richard Wright]

I cant relate

My linkedin buzzing off the hook

It all comes down to networking and skills. The people with skills dont network. The people who network dont have the skills.

Not that I care, I plan on pursuing a phd in cyber security and AI

 

[godkiller]

I kind of see it as this problem

-Poor match between college grad and the job market. There is a ridiculous amount of bureacracy and loop holes to jump through as well as an employer, student gap. Then you add the non-sense with the H-B1 Visas there is a huge amount of animosity by tech workers towards indian H-B1s. Employers say they can't find qualified american workers and applicants call bullshyt and say it's because they don't want to pay for American talent. This isn't even digging into firing people for getting too old or the overqualified myth.

-Networking is still king and generally speaking, black people tend to have much weaker networks. A lot of people got jobs because of their parent's connects or being friends with a few people in the right places. Most black people don't have that luxury so we are between a rock and a hard place. My old roommate's coworker is a bit of an idiot and struggles regularly with the work but when you have connections, anything can happen. You have to be damn near MENSA level to break through if your black or have good connects. I got a good job ONLY because of a referral due to the fact that I was drinking buddies with this white guy and it turned out he was a rich hipster kid and very popular. His name was like a gold stamp pretty much. If I never kicked rocks with him, I would have been SOL despite being really smart, talented and hard working.

-White professors, instructors and business owners feel more comfortable around white people than they do black people. You'll notice this a lot in college and I even confirmed this with non-white students of races other than black like Indians. Unlike Indians, black people don't have many STEM connections. A lot of indians have doctors, engineers and surgeons for relatives so it helps them tremendously. As black people we need to start copying them.

-We are too scattered to be able to form unions and social groups. A lot of highly educated professional blacks tend to marry out of their race a lot more than expected and are usually single much longer than other races. Also finding blacks who are at the top of their field in STEM is rare. Even added onto that because we are in such few numbers at the top, it makes it even harder to break in. A white guy I use to know talked about how they were interviewing for a job and one of the guys got really threatened by a girl with a near perfect GPA, spoke several languages and did a lot of work. He tried to downplay her accomplishments just because she was indian even though she was a better candidate than he was. She got hired because the guy that wasn't an a$$hole fought for her and she ended up blowing that racist dude out of the water at work in terms of quality.

poignant post

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

i'm struggling to launch my career even with a college degree too

 

[godkiller]

I know and it's it fukked up that they make better grades than white students yet have harder times getting good management jobs and into positions of leadership. Same BS with Indians too.


That's why I don't much attention to the "If we behaved ourselves, we could be as successful as everyone else" tip. It's funny because the model minority is a myth and has damaging effects on the ability of high performing minorities.

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/01/08/dismantling-the-model-minority-myth/
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/29/u...americans-face-widespread-discrimination.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-asians-hit-the-bamboo-ceiling/
http://read.hipporeads.com/debunkin...ys-asian-americans-still-face-discrimination/

Asians are in more hiring positions in Silicon Valley. The evidence shows Asians aren't more likely to hire blacks than whites so their hiring rates are irrelevant imho. It's probably better that whites are in the power position since whites share more culture with African Americans than Asians. Whites are probably more likely to hire blacks than other groups. Asians prefer to hire other Asians or cacs.

 

[DrX]

shyt might seem depressing but theirs a way man, never quit, just be smart and sharp....if ur black...life is is war...ur fighting for survival...u gotta be on point