Even with college degrees, blacks struggle to launch careers

[Wild self]

I reckon, you know college, even in 2015 with the hyper debt, isn't meant for you to automatically get a job right?

Deception is the name of the game, right? Guess I should sue all these teachers and institutions for lying to me and all the students for basically sacrificing yourself for a job with stagnant wages. They preach that you should do A,b,c for a job and you still don't have it. That is called lying.

 

[Wild self]

most of the blacks that majored in a STEM major are most of the tapdancin sambos in their workplaces. Slaving away for $50K just to shyt on other young blacks that graduated with non-stem degrees.

I graduated in December with a degree in advertising and just started my job couple weeks ago. Took me about 2 months to find a job aftr graduating and sending out apps since november and going on 4 interviews.

We gotta go thru so much bs just to get a foot in the door of everything.

First interview: phone interview, another phone interview, then an in-person interview. Those fukkin cacs picked my brain nshyt for a good 2 hrs. Then, the next week the cac dodged my call and sent me an email saying I "didn't seem like I wanted the job enough" fukkin job was paying $16.82/hr doing some accounts paybale bs

second interveiw: Cacs picking my brain again about dumbshyt and then this nikka ask me some retail math question that just sounded confusing af and made my ass look like a dumbfukk that couldn't do math. so no job.

third interview: Did a phone interview, then video interview. bytch kept telling me she was trying to contact her hiring manager. Kept reaching out to eachother for 2 weeks then finally, the position vanished off the site

Fourth interview: just shot my email online. Did phone interview, written assignment, in-person interview, then another final interview. and got the job

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shyt rough out there for blacks man even with degrees. Feel like I'm on the chopping block no matter what. And finding a job as a young black male? Gotta fukkin mark "two or more races" on your shyt. then you walk in and the cacs have the look.

shyt like that is why I refuse to even apply to some jobs. Especially in the private sector.

 

[Wild self]

I definitely agree, luckily I had some mentors who put me on game early and told me to start looking for them..And that shyt is basically responsible for where I am now. I'm on my little cousins neck right now about applying for internships or co-ops.

Yep, and make sure you tell them that they gotta go independent and never get comfortable with corporate America.

 

[Turbulent]

I'll try to divulge more about this without telling who I am. I work in finance and didn't know that much about internships until my junior year. You must have internships in order to make it in the corporate world.

During one of my finance internships a mentor got me, i was the only black intern with 3 black guys working. One was cool the others in high positions were c00ns. Literally made fun of black ppl for laughs, I got into at dinner with one BC he was trying to exclaim that white ppl could say ****** with no problem. Then on top of that he was describing an incident where he said those no good ******s. I couldn't take it anymore, I went off on his ass literally full on yelling match in front of everybody. But I was truly scared I realized. I realize if I wanted to make it I had to kiss ass like him and pander to their egos. This was a grown ass man who in no way shape or form mind could of been changed, he was gone and he was a "successful" black. I was sad for him and myself.

So I joined a smaller black firm and took the chance. Part of what I do we have to network a lot. We go to this meetings with rich white ppl like the ppl with real ass money. I introduce myself to these motherfukkers and they look me up and down . They won't even acknowledge our presence when we speak to them. Like flat out ask them questions and they will not respond. maybe 10% will do business with us .

Its hard out here man, its impossible to do business in this country or even the world with dealing with white ppl and they hate u. There's nothing u can really do FAM and were supposed to be a premier black firm.

I'm just saying man its a catch 22 out here u either c00n or try to make it while they push u down. Going out and doing it is way harder than u thank so all this black business talk is good talk but the walls built up are way higher than most can even imagine.

Pray for me brehs its hard out here I'm just trying to make it better for nikkas like me

it's gotta be hard but you gotta find an angle or set things up in a way to make yourself undeniable. to where if they want to get money, they gotta go through you. once you find that angle. fukk being liked. fukk what they feel in their heart. never expect them to give you respect out of kindness. find a way to command their respect and force their hand. I sincerely wish you good luck breh.

 

[DrX]

pretty much. gotta get that money how you can. use whatever gift/opportunity God gives you how you can to get that money. the game is rigged but once you're armed with that knowledge, you're already ahead in a way.either find glitches to exploit in the game or refuse to play their game and pave your own lane.

that's it bro, the game is rigged, my dumbass parents still be preaching that "find a good job" nonsense...how are these my elders and they still don't understand the game?

 

[Blessings]

Deception is the name of the game, right? Guess I should sue all these teachers and institutions for lying to me and all the students for basically sacrificing yourself for a job with stagnant wages. They preach that you should do A,b,c for a job and you still don't have it. That is called lying.

work smarter....not harder
teacher/institution says......what about your beliefs, no need to take whatever someone says for gospel
and of course.....Just because you do 'A,b,c for a job'....doesn't mean you'll get it

had companies fly me out,car rental,hotel, food (their tax write-off) for final round interviews, and I still didn't get the job

 

[Barnett114]

 

[DrX]

Deception is the name of the game, right? Guess I should sue all these teachers and institutions for lying to me and all the students for basically sacrificing yourself for a job with stagnant wages. They preach that you should do A,b,c for a job and you still don't have it. That is called lying.

yeah man, they tell us that to keep us under the system foot, I dont even get mad @ cacs no more but Im mad at our black elders for preaching that shyt to us.....

 

[TRFG]

When these topics are posted I'm surprised no one brings up finding a job or entry level gig at the profession you want

Everyone wants to be a CEO out of college

 

[Warren Moon]

it's gotta be hard but you gotta find an angle or set things up in a way to make yourself undeniable. to where if they want to get money, they gotta go through you. once you find that angle. fukk being liked. fukk what they feel in their heart. never expect them to give you respect out of kindness. find a way to command their respect and force their hand. I sincerely wish you good luck breh.

We trying man. Its more than an open dirty secret that nikkas with their own companies that make it in the private sector partner with the public sector. The only nikkas making get government contracts in some way and that only really happens in black cities. There's only so much of that that goes around.

Read any book with a black person that made it they had to get shyt from the government and there ain't nothing wrong with that. Its just I read posts on this board and they say black business this black business that. Its way harder than that, we don't have rich ppl from our homeland backing us that's the only reason other races make it here.

It was a really sad realization when I found out I'm going to be the beginning of shyt like I have to break down barriers. I know it must be done but at the same time I'm

 

[Wild self]

work smarter....not harder
teacher/institution says......what about your beliefs, no need to take whatever someone says for gospel
and of course.....Just because you do 'A,b,c for a job'....doesn't mean you'll get it

had companies fly me out,car rental,hotel, food (their tax write-off) for final round interviews, and I still didn't get the job

What this generation is going through to get jobs is unheard of in any part in American History. For anyone to go through those extreme means just to get a job is inhumane. That reason alone, these institutions of education deserved to be sued because they can't serve their only purpose.

 

[BeeCityRoller]

Generation Y blacks got college/university shoved down our throats when we saw how our families struggled from single motherhood, having kids early, and working with just enough to pay the bills. We went to college for the generic Business/Psychology/Pol Sci/Comm/AA Studies but alot of us dropped out because we (and by we, I mean ME) had no real sense direction, or self-motivation. Some people made it and got their degrees, but now the herd is alot thinner in this economy.

Its still the good-old boys network in the new millennium and people with a degree but little/no job experience aren't doing that much better than people who worked at the same job 5+ years. My black manager from my old job has an Accounting degree, but still has to grind twice as hard just to keep his spot at the bottom of the totem pole while new non-black managers get hired with a higher position and better hours.

I don't think black people should keep going to College/University without a gameplan for entrepreneurship, and I don't mean that MLM crap. Start saving at least four figures so we can get the ball rolling on our own businesses in fields we are actually interested in. CERTs are good but they're cracking down on those too, making you pay higher fees for licensing, retest every 3+ years, etc...we have it bad but the generation that's coming after us is beyond screwed.

 

[Wild self]

yeah man, they tell us that to keep us under the system foot, I dont even get mad @ cacs no more but Im mad at our black elders for preaching that shyt to us.....

Yep. Sad to see people brainwashed about this crap and still thinking that it works.

 

[Wild self]

Generation Y blacks got college/university shoved down our throats when we saw how our families struggled from single motherhood, having kids early, and working with just enough to pay the bills. We went to college for the generic Business/Psychology/Pol Sci/Comm/AA Studies but alot of us dropped out because we (and by we, I mean ME) had no real sense direction, or self-motivation. Some people made got their degrees, but its still the good-old boys network in the new millennium and they aren't doing that much better than people who worked at the same job 5+ years. My black manager from my old job has an Accounting degree, but still has to grind twice as hard just to keep his spot at the bottom of the totem pole while new non-black managers get hired with a higher position and better hours.

I don't think black people should keep going to College/University without a gameplan for entrepreneurship, and I don't mean that MLM crap. Start saving at least four figures so we can get the ball rolling on our own businesses in fields we are actually interested in. CERTs are good but they're cracking down on those too, making you pay higher fees for licensing, retest every 3+ years, etc...we have it bad but the generation that's coming after us is beyond screwed.

You see my vision. The concept of looking for a job will be a thing of the past. There needs to be something that would wreck havoc at this shyt and literally shake up society as a while to see that employment with an a$$hole boss is never the way.

 

[Turbulent]

We trying man. Its more than an open dirty secret that nikkas with their own companies that make it in the private sector partner with the public sector. The only nikkas making get government contracts in some way and that only really happens in black cities. There's only so much of that that goes around.

Read any book with a black person that made it they had to get shyt from the government and there ain't nothing wrong with that. Its just I read posts on this board and they say black business this black business that. Its way harder than that, we don't have rich ppl from our homeland backing us that's the only reason other races make it here.

It was a really sad realization when I found out I'm going to be the beginning of shyt like I have to break down barriers. I know it must be done but at the same time I'm

lol, it'll just make your story that much more glorious and the book about it more interesting keep your head up! like i said breh, you need to find that angle. it might not even be something super unorthodox. and it might take some re-structuring or even re-defining your business. but once you discover and develop the angle, you'll be good. and don't be attached to the "project" too much. if it needs tweaking or complete overhaul, it's hard to do when you're attached to the project. instead attach yourself to the end goal of building wealth. i'm sounding pretty vague but that's just the way i see it.

grind hard, grind smart, do both and you will probably win