Explain the logic behind placing LEBRON above SHAQ

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Who was the last eastern conference player to drop multiple 30-40+ point games in a series like Harden is doing right now? :stopitslime:
Lmao I don't know and I don't care.

The east is weak, we get it. But stop acting like Bron would be Melo status if he were in the West. What is the nikka supposed to switch to a team in the west to make you happy? When in reality people like you would move another goal post... like ''oh he went to a stacked team in a west'' or ''he'd face a team in the east in the finals so its a guaranteed win''. :

How many high scoring games did Tobe have post Shaq/pre Gasol? What did those high scoring games get him?
 

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Whats crazy is everyone completely forgets they was teammates. Shaq literally played with everyone, his ring chasing when he was past his prime was borderline disgusting
 

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Whats crazy is everyone completely forgets they was teammates. Shaq literally played with everyone, his ring chasing when he was past his prime was borderline disgusting


Only 1 year in his 19 year career (rookie season), did he NOT have at least 1 All-Star player on the roster with him:wow:
 

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I hate this arguement

Alot of the teams in the West have 2 very good players on each team as most of the best players play out West. Are you telling me if you put Lebron on teams out West they wouldnt make the Finals regularly?

If you put Bron on this years Blazers, Mavs, Clippers, man fukking take your pick. That team has a good chance of making the finals. People need to accept hes a great player

Offensively? Sure. Kinda goes hand and hand.

Nothing else to say about what I said?

Lmao I don't know and I don't care.

The east is weak, we get it. But stop acting like Bron would be Melo status if he were in the West. What is the nikka supposed to switch to a team in the west to make you happy? When in reality people like you would move another goal post... like ''oh he went to a stacked team in a west'' or ''he'd face a team in the east in the finals so its a guaranteed win''. :

How many high scoring games did Tobe have post Shaq/pre Gasol? What did those high scoring games get him?

He's 2-3 in the Finals right now and probably about to be 2-4 in a couple weeks. Don't sit here and tell me the conferences don't matter.
 

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Whats crazy is everyone completely forgets they was teammates. Shaq literally played with everyone, his ring chasing when he was past his prime was borderline disgusting
He was paycheck chasing breh. He knew he was done
He was still on the contract Riley gave him at that point :mjlol:. That one lasted forever. Get paid $20 million to chase a title? I'd be down for that.
 
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This has been on my mind as of late with the "easily top 5" lebron comments I see


Lebrons prime run right is at MOST 'ON PAR' with shaqs. 6 finals appearances with 4 wins and 3 MVPs. A conference finals lock. 1 MVP...robbed for two.

I'll compare stats when I get to the office...but drop your thoughts
Dumbest post ever
 

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3 times in Orlando: Pacers in '94, Rockets in '95, Bulls in '96
2 times in LA: Jazz in '98, Spurs in '99
1 time in Miami: Bulls in '07


Alot of them wasn't his fault

94 - pacers just a better team, Shaq's first time in the playoffs - Pass
95 - rockets championship experienced nick anderson blows 4 free throws and isn't the same since. Shaq had monster series
96 - bulls goat team, horace get's hurt in game 1
98 - Jazz 2nd best team in the league lakers have cheeks head coach
99 - Spurs great team lakers held back by terrible coach
07 - Shaq old and washed
 

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He's 2-3 in the Finals right now and probably about to be 2-4 in a couple weeks. Don't sit here and tell me the conferences don't matter.
I don't know how you can put 2007 or 2014 on him when they lost to better teams. 2011 is a different story..

I guess they should just tank the ECF right now so they don't have to worrying about potentially losing to the Warriors.
 
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So far.... I have yet to see a compelling argument as to why or how lebron > shaq thus far. Including the windows of age, seasons, let alone total career.

It is ARGUABLE that they're on par IF lebron wins. Personally idk if they are but I respect that stance.
 

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He's 2-3 in the Finals right now and probably about to be 2-4 in a couple weeks. Don't sit here and tell me the conferences don't matter.

Right so his team would be better if he was out west (the superior conference with superior teams) and more likely to beat whoever came out the weaker East. Feel free to keep ignoring this or acting as if he'd be taking the teams he's played with in the East out west with him because you'd rather shyt on him than be logical or make sense.
 

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So far.... I have yet to see a compelling argument as to why or how lebron > shaq thus far. Including the windows of age, seasons, let alone total career.

It is ARGUABLE that they're on par IF lebron wins. Personally idk if they are but I respect that stance.

What would it take for you to put Lebron above Shaq in your mind? 2 more rings?
 
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