Exposed? Hitboy Used Stock Loops To Make "nikkas In Paris" and "Cold"

[Ronald McDonald]

what did polow the don do again?

 

[Master Teacher]

Chopping up loops n putting drums on em....then mixing to get it how you want aint no abc shyt...as simple as it sounds. Some of the greatest beats ever had few elements to em....it doesnt take away anything from the beat or its creator...

Chopping up load patterns is a broad time

you aint chopping with those loops, you literally put the together like a legos a small child can do it

the greatest beat of all time weren't made like that, this shyt is not sampling

I can't even take the samples from chronic and make some shyt that sounds as good as Dre did, and he ain't do nothing but loop the shyt

you don't understand production is more than looping man, its a lot more that goes into the shyt when crafting a sound

this new age producer all frauds this beats already constructed and studio master

I use them to you, you don't understand how easy it is to even disguise them

 

[Master Teacher]

I'm saying, being able to identify exactly where something came from...isn't exactly an exposure.

It's not like Hit Boy, Polow, StarGate or any of the producers are even claiming that they created every single beat from scratch, and any sound they used...was created by them.

I can't call it tho, are cats upset that these producers didn't try hard enough to make their beats unrecognizable to their ears... or are they upset that these producers use the same shyt at primitive levels and still manage to outdo them?

You don't make beats so you don't understand

Sound does not equal loops

Sounds are just patches in a keyboard, like strings, synth, etc I can scroll through the sound bank adn recognize a sound I heard in somebody's beat not the whole goddamn beat

The beats are already done in Hip Hop form

at least when those guys were sampling they were taking something that wasn't a beat and making it a beat

you literally just have to arrange the sequence and yo're done with the loop packs, anybody can do that shyt they are royalty free

i I was a rapper I would just buy the loop packs and never even pay the producers and get more publishing for the song

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I'm not mad at him. It's the same shyt with sampling to me... and why I don't sample



It's easy as hell to use a loop to make a hot beat, I did it all the time when starting off. Then I wanted to create my own shyt... eventually started using real musicians to make riffs/loops for me if it was something too complex. It is what it is.

 

[L&HH]

I'm not mad at him. It's the same shyt with sampling to me... and why I don't sample



It's easy as hell to use a loop to make a hot beat, I did it all the time when starting off. Then I wanted to create my own shyt... eventually started using real musicians to make riffs/loops for me if it was something too complex. It is what it is.

You guys have it messed up. Music isn't about how "hard" or complex it is to make. It's just making a dope sounding end final product. Millions of people have access to the same samples, loops, packs or w/e but they ain't making the same final end product.

Also there was alot of extra shyt going on in both the Cold and nikkas in Paris stock loops that was either removed and/or altered.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

You guys have it messed up. Music isn't about how "hard" or complex it is to make. It's just making a dope sounding end final product. Millions of people have access to the same samples, loops, packs or w/e but they ain't making the same final end product.

Also there was alot of extra shyt going on in both the Cold and nikkas in Paris stock loops that was either removed and/or altered.

And where did I say anything about making complex music?


I said if a riff or loop was complex for ME, then I'll use actual musicians.

Most hip hop beats aren't complex at all... And most aren't originally created by the producer. They're usually sliced together from someone else loop or sample. What I try to do is record from other musicians so I won't have to pay royalties for a loop or sample. And plus I have input on the riff itself. Sometimes I just let them play for however long then go back and chop/cut what I want.

 

[DaveyDave]

And where did I say anything about making complex music?


I said if a riff or loop was complex for ME, then I'll use actual musicians.

Most hip hop beats aren't complex at all... And most aren't originally created by the producer. They're usually sliced together from someone else loop or sample. What I try to do is record from other musicians so I won't have to pay royalties for a loop or sample. And plus I have input on the riff itself. Sometimes I just let them play for however long then go back and chop/cut what I want.

most music isn't complicated either, i hate when elitist muhfukkas try to act as if Hip Hop is so easy to make. it's just as easy as any band playing a simple 1-2 drum pattern, strumming 3 chords & mumbling some words.

 

[b@squ1@t]

most music isn't complicated either, i hate when elitist muhfukkas try to act as if Hip Hop is so easy to make. it's just as easy as any band playing a simple 1-2 drum pattern, strumming 3 chords & mumbling some words.

i pulled a knife out on 4 dudes in the past week and punched a bytch in her mouth for hitting me first

 

[DaveyDave]

i pulled a knife out on 4 dudes in the past week and punched a bytch in her mouth for hitting me first

ok good for you breh

 

[b@squ1@t]

ok good for you breh

i'm eating lemon pepper wings and smoking silver kush.

My life is all I have, my bong, my bytch, my pad.

 

[Ohene]

The funny part about this, is that people act like stock shyt somehow makes people frauds..... but the reality is that if it was so easy to do, they'd be doing it and hanging out with all these rappers and getting deals.

To me it's even more impressive using stock shyt to make a hit

 

[O.T.I.S.]

most music isn't complicated either, i hate when elitist muhfukkas try to act as if Hip Hop is so easy to make. it's just as easy as any band playing a simple 1-2 drum pattern, strumming 3 chords & mumbling some words.

Again... I will stress this point of me saying it's complex TO ME

I don't play guitar or haven't had instrumental training. I play piano by ear, but most people I have that come in and do shyt that I cannot do. Most of them use my "studio" for me to record them and basically piece their ideas for their music together.

Most songs aren't complicated, but some are. When I want it to be, I use much more talented musicians, especially if I don't want to sample someone else's established shyt or use a loop.

 

[Big Mel]

The funny part about this, is that people act like stock shyt somehow makes people frauds..... but the reality is that if it was so easy to do, they'd be doing it and hanging out with all these rappers and getting deals.

do you even realize how much of a a$$hole you are? You're vile on multiple fronts. nikkas had you in a cart, with baby shoulders and a fem look. Ride off into the sunset.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

It's actually been known for the longest that Hudson Mohawke did nikkas in Paris anyway, and hit boy basically lifted the shyt off him

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

The funny part about this, is that people act like stock shyt somehow makes people frauds..... but the reality is that if it was so easy to do, they'd be doing it and hanging out with all these rappers and getting deals.

I don't think hit boy is a fraud but I think producers use to be held at a certain level of regard when it came to their unique craft of being able to make original content.

Sampling in my opinion is different then clicking and dragging a 8sec loop

I feel like the quality of music and the creativity of the producer go hand in hand.