Fast food workers strike, demanding $15 an hour

[Gus Money]

There are plenty of high paying jobs (what's considered high pay is subjective) but there just aren't enough people to fill them skill wise. The reason why there aren't enough low paying jobs for people to snag two is because ANYONE has the skill to fill them so they go a lot quicker. It's not about JUST working harder, it's about developing/learning a skill that makes you eligible for higher paying wages.

The bolded issn't exactly true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/business/economy/despite-job-vacancies-employers-shy-away-from-hiring.html?pagewanted=print

Some have attributed the more extended process to a mismatch between the requirements of the four million jobs available and the skills held by many of the 12 million unemployed. That’s probably true in a few high-skilled fields, like nursing or biotech, but for a large majority of positions where candidates are plentiful, the bigger problem seems to be a sort of hiring paralysis.

“There’s a fear that the economy is going to go down again, so the message you get from C.F.O.’s is to be careful about hiring someone,” said John Sullivan, a management professor at San Francisco State University who runs a human resources consulting business. “There’s this great fear of making a mistake, of wasting money in a tight economy.”

As a result, employers are bringing in large numbers of candidates for interview after interview after interview. Data from Glassdoor.com, a site that collects information on hiring at different companies, shows that the average duration of the interview process at major companies like Starbucks, General Mills and Southwest Airlines has roughly doubled since 2010.

“After they call you back after the sixth interview, there’s a part of you that wants to say, ‘That’s it, I’m not going back,’ ” said Paul Sullivan, 43, an exasperated but cheerful video editor in Washington. “But then you think, hey, maybe seven is my lucky number. And besides, if I don’t go, they’ll just eliminate me if something else comes up because they’ll think I have an attitude problem.”

As far as developing new skills, not everyone has a legitimate opportunity to do that, hence the problem. I can't spell it out any better than Broke Wave did in in this thread: http://www.the-coli.com/3805457-post66.html

 

[Wild self]

America is going to shyt.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

So who here works for themselves...

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

THE HULKSTER SUPPORTS ANY ATTEMPT BY WORKING PEOPLE TO UNIONIZE AND FIGHT FOR BETTER TREATMENT, BROTHER!

 

[CashmereThoughts]

America is going to shyt.

"America" ain't never been shyt.

 

[rapbeats]

It's fukking burger flipping. It is the most entry level work you can find.

You have coveted city jobs paying 15 x Hr. And you have to pass tests and in some cases actually have skills to get those jobs. And Fastfood company's are supposed to offer pay that's competitive with Better jobs that people are actually competing to get?

People in here are so worried about "greed" and what Executives and CEOs make. Execs command 6 figures in any company, CEO earn millions, IN ANY COMPANY! See, that's what their experience and skill set demands.

On the flip side, not having any skills, education or at least ambition to do better doesn't command more then 7.50 an hour. It ain't even greedy, as an employer you pay people what there services are worth. And doing a job that a 15 year old can do with almost no training ain't really worth much. People who choose to live in the most expensive city in America and choose to work dead end jobs complaining that it ain't enough money to survive.

No shyt!

you're wrong. doing the job of a lot of people that have degrees sitting up in offices is just as simple.

anyone, kid or adult can be trained to do it. we can all be trained to do most things as long as it isnt rocket science.

but i know you want to believe you're more elite then that. you're not.

in addition. stop looking at it as if they are encroaching on your 15+ territory for REAL jobs. that means your REAL jobs dont pay what they SHOULD.

dont get mad at these broke employees. get made at your ultra rich employer that keeps low balling all of us.

you talk about your worth. you dont even know how to figure out your worth. if you base it on what you're paid. we all get paid less then we're worth.

i bring in a few million to a company i work for. do you think i see a percent of that? HECK NO. so tell me what am i worth? ohh thats right. if i dont have 5 degrees from the greatest colleges on earth, and 10 certs. then i'm not worth much. which would then make me literally worse less then i was actually paid because i would have so much debt in student loans it wouldnt be funny.

stop being slaves. dont hate on employees. ask for more yourself. you are being low balled as we speak. your employer is earning more money year in and year out. yet the employee wages are not rising. what part of the game is this?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Most jobs are not incredibly complex --- if a teenager can take AP classes, a teenager can fill most positions competently after training and experience. Lets not make teenagers out to be idiots. Its socially acceptable for teenagers to work fast food, for no other reason than as a society, we know fast food will hire them. I dont think its fair to say is reflective of how "easy" the job is.

Teenagers are hired because they have zero bargaining power, and they will take anything; essentially, teenagers undercut the work force, in order to drive down wages for adults.

Organizing fast food labor will either cut out teenagers from submarining wages of that industry, or it will incorporate them into the union giving them higher wages off top.

Let's keep it funky, half of you IT geniuses making 100k a year could have done the same job at 18, if you had 2 years of experience and training starting at the age of 16.

Let's not pretend that aptitude increase simply because you get older

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I bet they have an iPhone and Dre beats though.

 

[rapbeats]

Let's keep it funky, half of you IT geniuses making 100k a year could have done the same job at 18, if you had 2 years of experience and training starting at the age of 16.

Let's not pretend that aptitude increase simply because you get older

exactly. people acting like its astrophysics to work. its not.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

So who here works for themselves...

 

[Egomaniacal1]

Trust me...you and I share the same viewpoint.

But until the federal government deems this shyt illegal with penalties next to death, it ain't changing.

The "freedom" in this country is in the wrong places.

I agree. The federal government will need to change some things but I also think they won't do it willingly. It's gonna take a movement, a revolution from the people affected the most as more of us wake up and see things don't have to be this way in this country.

That's why I salute these ppl for their effort even if it does turn out to be futile. It's better than not trying at all and at the end of the day you never know what might get the ball rollin towards change.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

LMAO!! then you bring in a pick up truck full of Mexicans and get your lawn mowed for probably cheaper. Refusing to cut my lawn because I won't pay you the money you want only hurts YOU. You're the one not getting paid and I'm still going to get my lawn cut. What you gonna stand guard in front of my lawn ALL day everyday? You can't stop me from hiring someone else.

The same with these worker, sure you want money but if McDonald's feel they aren't worth more guess what? They are going to hire a new group of people and replace them. Then they'll be out of a job and competing with a pool of other low/under skilled workers for similar jobs, which are harder to obtain.

You don't understand, that's how the game works....To put it in street terms, in order for capitilism to work, you gotta have winners and losers for lack of better terms.

Someone always has to ask do you want fries with that, or sweep the lobby, or wash your car, etc....

Until recently, the losers could live off of their wages and the economy kept on moving.

Since uber greed has set in by the 1%, cost of living and inflation has surpassed wages by a landslide and the losers can no longer eat.

Black folks used to be the losers, but now its immigrants, and that's the main reason why immigration laws will become more & more relaxed because they are sorely needed for the economy to keep functioning...

But this is short termed, and as 2nd generation children of immigrants demand fairer wages as opposed to their parents, the shyt will hit the fan, and see how much your career/dollar is gonna be worth then.

The losers make up the majority of the work force and if they can't eat, how do you expect the current economic model to sustain itself long term....

That Mexican that will cut your grass for cheaper, was black people starting around 1920 or so. Will we work for those wages now?


I don't mean any disrespect when I say losers either...

 

[Wild self]

exactly. people acting like its astrophysics to work. its not.

Sad how 20 years ago people could graduate from college and live a good life. Now, if you ain't IT, nursing, or accounting you broke and god be damned if you demand a better life doing something else.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

 

[CashmereThoughts]

but i know you want to believe you're more elite then that. you're not.

ELITE!?!? I'm not even talking about myself. I haven't brought up my compensation. My simple principle in all of this is that you earn the pay you able to convince someone to pay you.

fukk I look like picketing(not getting payed mind you) to protest the compensation that I AGREED to earn for my 40 hours of work.

There are people in this thread arguing that these workers can't do anything better for themselfs, that they lack the characteristics to attain more. My arguement is that these people can be whatever they want if they just tried.

I don't wanna hear shyt, I was 18 years old sleeping on the 6 train, showering at the Y, and showing up to work at Best Buy everyday to work my shift. You don't need any economic advantages or and education to continuously make progress in life. I don't knock people who work fast food, but not in my lifetime have you been able to maintain in NYC flipping burgers.. So argue if you want too but Wendy's and White Castle are not giving these nikkas a cost of living adjustment..

Do your time, use the experience and move up in pay somewhere else!!