Fat Trel On Wale: "He's Not From My Side"

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Bruh you must be from VA. No offense, but ain't nobody latching on to VA's music scene at least not when the DMV term popped off. VA was coming to U St like everybody else to pay their dues. shyt must be different now because i don't remember any notable rap venues or groups from NoVa like that.

DMV was created because "DC Metropolitan area" wasn't marketable. It was a way to put a brand on the metro area by them radio nikkas. Nobody liked it but everybody accepted it. DC proper was/is the cultural hub. But that takes nothing away from the immediate surrounding areas. Everybody played a part.

Facts.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

I wanna go back. My favorite place to live.
Canada ji dry

Visited TO yet? What’s it like?

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Visited TO yet? What’s it like?

I lived there.. it's like a whiter Chicago mixed with Minneapolis...with Caribbean people and hella Indians x Chinese folk with a cool trolley and good food everywhere.
People are goofy and amusing but like to stare.
Overall a fun experience. I don't drink or club but when I did go out it was people in their phones just like Adams Morgan but with less variety of bad jawn, despite what they say.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I don't know what y'all talking about but growing up Moco nikkas was bammas as well, we was not going over there, don't remember Moco being deep at any gogos back in the day

I'm a PG nikka and nikkas did claim dc back in the day, just about every nikka was claiming southeast in the 90s

I spent my first 3 semesters of college out Frostburg playing fb. School was filled with PG and Moco nikkas and they claimed DC HEAVY. The DC nikkas out there used to clown them tho. Some of the PG nikkas was cool. Moco nikkas was straight clowns. ALL of them bougie especially the chicks. The DC cats used to fukk with us Baltimore cats way more and those county dudes couldn't stand it

 

[Deoji]

that's what i said tho.. the dj's are the ones that started it... if radio is dc, and everyone paid dues in dc, and dc was the hood spot... then they would just stick to dc... nobody from new york says "i'm from the tri state" cause new york is solid on their own

the only thing missing from dc was rap.. they was all about go go. meanwhile va as a whole, was known from skillz to timbo to clipse to singing nikkas like there was no need to through in va for any other reason. they could have just been the dc/md area... or the dc metro area.. or metro area... or whatever the hell else. but nah.. the money and the music connects were in va. and va nikkas was coming into the city with money to perform and do the showcases and shyt, so they had to include them

I'm gonna need some receipts bruh. "DC was the hood spot"? Where are you from exactly? U St. was known for the underground music scene and not just some hood spot. And rap was never "missing" in DC, Go-Go was just the dominant genre. Go-Go bands had rappers in them and rappers would hop on stage to rock with the bands. There were a lot of rappers putting in work and laying the groundwork starting from the late 80s. And NO ONE who is actually from the area would lump Timbo, Neptunes or any of them Bad News nikka in with Northern VA. I have NEVER heard anyone try to make that connection. North VA is included in the DMV obviously because it's a part of the metropolitan area.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

I'm gonna need some receipts bruh. "DC was the hood spot"? Where are you from exactly? U St. was known for the underground music scene and not just some hood spot. And rap was never "missing" in DC, Go-Go was just the dominant genre. Go-Go bands had rappers in them and rappers would hop on stage to rock with the bands. There were a lot of rappers putting in work and laying the groundwork starting from the late 80s. And NO ONE who is actually from the area would lump Timbo, Neptunes or any of them Bad News nikka in with Northern VA. I have NEVER heard anyone try to make that connection. North VA is included in the DMV obviously because it's a part of the metropolitan area.

Ion even know why he included them in the first place. Them nikkas down there aren’t from here, yeah they get some inspiration from Da Culture up here and we’re cousins but that’s about it. We never associated ourselves with 757 nikkas like that in the music biz.

And lol at U Street being some hood spot Whether it was GoGo, underground Rap, Punk, Emo, Downtempo, Rock, Afrobeat, Jazz, or Dancehall, you could hear all types of alternative/underground/local/upcoming music being played around U Street back then.

Yeah U Street was more hood back in 1998 and even 2008 than it is now in 2018 but even then, most of the venues weren’t even solely geared towards hood shyt.

 

[norfwestdc]

I remember when lil dude snuck through the window and shot ol girl in those apartments by largo town center.
This was like 2014.

Wale plentya times said he aint from that street life on record lol, OP tyna clickbait stir some shyt up

This is what I hate about D.C nikkas. Wale never claimed to run the streets. He only talks about street shyt when using wordplay.

 

[tuckgod]

Ion even know why he included them in the first place. Them nikkas down there aren’t from here, yeah they get some inspiration from Da Culture up here and we’re cousins but that’s about it. We never associated ourselves with 757 nikkas like that in the music biz.

And lol at U Street being some hood spot Whether it was GoGo, underground Rap, Punk, Emo, Downtempo, Rock, Afrobeat, Jazz, or Dancehall, you could hear all types of alternative/underground/local/upcoming music being played around U Street back then.

Yeah U Street was more hood back in 1998 and even 2008 than it is now in 2018 but even then, most of the venues weren’t even solely geared towards hood shyt.

Lol, Tidewater and Northern Virginia/DC is two whole different worlds.

It’s love though

 

[Ardamus]

Bruh you must be from VA. No offense, but ain't nobody latching on to VA's music scene at least not when the DMV term popped off. VA was coming to U St like everybody else to pay their dues. shyt must be different now because i don't remember any notable rap venues or groups from NoVa like that.

DMV was created because "DC Metropolitan area" wasn't marketable. It was a way to put a brand on the metro area by them radio nikkas. Nobody liked it but everybody accepted it. DC proper was/is the cultural hub. But that takes nothing away from the immediate surrounding areas. Everybody played a part.

Facts.

Good point. I had a lot of homies from VA come into DC and do this shyt all the time. Only time I really remember going out to VA for some weekly was this event at this Sports Bar thats closed down that was in Fairfax years ago. Quite a few heads from DC and MD would go there and connect with the heads from VA there. And if you locked down a show or whatever in VA, you'll make the trip if you want to. But DC always had the venues that would let you get away with more shyt than VA. A few venues in MD would be like that too but, shyt...State Of The Union and Metro Cafe on U Street were the main spots at one point. fukk around with LIV/Bohemian Caverns and etc.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I'm gonna need some receipts bruh. "DC was the hood spot"? Where are you from exactly? U St. was known for the underground music scene and not just some hood spot. And rap was never "missing" in DC, Go-Go was just the dominant genre. Go-Go bands had rappers in them and rappers would hop on stage to rock with the bands. There were a lot of rappers putting in work and laying the groundwork starting from the late 80s. And NO ONE who is actually from the area would lump Timbo, Neptunes or any of them Bad News nikka in with Northern VA. I have NEVER heard anyone try to make that connection. North VA is included in the DMV obviously because it's a part of the metropolitan area.

Ion even know why he included them in the first place. Them nikkas down there aren’t from here, yeah they get some inspiration from Da Culture up here and we’re cousins but that’s about it. We never associated ourselves with 757 nikkas like that in the music biz.

And lol at U Street being some hood spot Whether it was GoGo, underground Rap, Punk, Emo, Downtempo, Rock, Afrobeat, Jazz, or Dancehall, you could hear all types of alternative/underground/local/upcoming music being played around U Street back then.

Yeah U Street was more hood back in 1998 and even 2008 than it is now in 2018 but even then, most of the venues weren’t even solely geared towards hood shyt.

Y’all are not reading anything I’m actually saying. I didn’t say U st was hood or anything about U st. I said DC was hood. Out of the three areas, dc had the street rep. It wasn’t cool to say you a va nikka or an md nikka. Dc nikkas was like Brooklyn nikkas. They had all the mystique


Another thing I clearly said was, when it first started dmv was the whole states. On some let’s all get along. You still have wars about what cities are included or not. It became the dc metro area only later on. Not at its conception

Which brings me to the va music scene. Unlike dc, rap was the forefront. Northern va nikkas was going to Richmond and Norfolk to perform and link up with family cause the scene was better. You had a way better chance of getting somewhere as a va artist. Except for wale, nobody truly blew from dc/md. nikkas from Philly to ny to jerz was coming to va for that work and music was spreading because of it. nikkas wasn’t even bringing up dc or md in their rhymes while ny cats was screaming bout va every album.

Va had it way more lit. Maybe not nova rappers. Ain’t none of them either. But back in the 90s, they knew to head south before heading to dc.

Then dc blew up with rap coming up and gogo dying down. 00s everybody was rapping. Had a crew. Had events. Had a showcase. Had someone to open up for. Dmv whole area had shows and events. That’s when that shyt came back around again.

“Oh yea we should all be dmv and get on like atl on some unity shyt”

Then that shyt last 3 weeks and nikkas talking the same trash like you see in this thread.



As for me. I was born in Philly. Moved to northern va about high school. Stayed out near valley st in SE after that. Moved all around in the military. And now I’m in Richmond.

So I’ve been here a while and been all over. I’ve thrown these events. I know the people who was throwing them then. And the new nikkas throwing them now. I listened to funk regulator cee lo tell the stories of starting the dmv movement and why and how nikkas hating ruined his vision. I’ve seen the scene be empty. Get hot. Be empty. Get hot. And now we on the back burner again. which is when you bout to start hearing this dmv shyt again

I’m telling y’all facts. The shyt was all about music, getting linked up to get attention, and using the street cred of dc/md and the reach of va to get heard. What it turned into is something else

 

[Ardamus]

that's what i said tho.. the dj's are the ones that started it... if radio is dc, and everyone paid dues in dc, and dc was the hood spot... then they would just stick to dc... nobody from new york says "i'm from the tri state" cause new york is solid on their own

the only thing missing from dc was rap.. they was all about go go. meanwhile va as a whole, was known from skillz to timbo to clipse to singing nikkas like there was no need to through in va for any other reason. they could have just been the dc/md area... or the dc metro area.. or metro area... or whatever the hell else. but nah.. the money and the music connects were in va. and va nikkas was coming into the city with money to perform and do the showcases and shyt, so they had to include them

The thing is...DC always had rappers but they didn't get popular til later on. I recall even at one point, to even be considered an emcee or a rapper...you had to get down with a go go band at some point. But my thing is, there's been groups like Questionmark Asylum and Section 8 Mob that all got some sort of notice in a commercial limelight; maybe not a whole lot but they got some ntoice. Along with it, you had indie acts like Dirty Water, Opus Akoben, Fung Sai U, Unspoken Heard, Infinite Loop, and others that got a buzz. But I don't think the major push for a good portion of these acts was there in DC because, the entertainment industry really isn't in the forefront of DC. Everything else exists here in terms of industry and even the arts. Entertainment does as well but when it comes to music...its not like L.A. or New York. Its becoming more of that now but the issue is that's in gentrified sense to push more acts.

 

[Ardamus]

Wale
Logic
Phil Ade
Oddisee
Rico Nasty (the biggest female rapper in the area and she from Largo)
Q Da Fool
Shabazz
Lil Dude
Goonew
Substantial
Sugg Savage
Mike of DOOM (went to high school with breh)
Jay IDK
Goldlink
Ciscero
Lyriciss nka Rob Regal
Young Simba
Willtharapper (he from Cap Heights)
Crank Lucas

I'm putting in bold the names I have never heard of. Lyriciss and Sub are good peoples. Known Oddisee and Phil Ade for years. I just remember Crank had a different name like X-Quiz or something but I don't think I met him. Never met Logic but he was big fan of one of my homies who I came up with doing music, Flex Matthews.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The thing is...DC always had rappers but they didn't get popular til later on. I recall even at one point, to even be considered an emcee or a rapper...you had to get down with a go go band at some point. But my thing is, there's been groups like Questionmark Asylum and Section 8 Mob that all got some sort of notice in a commercial limelight; maybe not a whole lot but they got some ntoice. Along with it, you had indie acts like Dirty Water, Opus Akoben, Fung Sai U, Unspoken Heard, Infinite Loop, and others that got a buzz. But I don't think the major push for a good portion of these acts was there in DC because, the entertainment industry really isn't in the forefront of DC. Everything else exists here in terms of industry and even the arts. Entertainment does as well but when it comes to music...its not like L.A. or New York. Its becoming more of that now but the issue is that's in gentrified sense to push more acts.

And that is the reason the DMV started. All the things you’re explaining. Having to be with a band. Indie acts. A little light. Entertainment doesn’t do well here. Etc.

Wale is the only semi household name and rap been out since the 70s. And we got dmv nikkas fighting if he really from md. Trel would be there and nikkas fighting if he really from va. Logic another and he’s from md.

DC is not the place to blow for rappers. But it is a grimy hood spot that has a rep when you say “I’m from DC”. So let these md and va nikkas claim it if they want. We’ll take that and combine it with a scene that does have household names. And with the added numbers of 3 areas, we can be a big area instead of 30 miles of circumference.


Obviously we see it didn’t work. But that was the plan

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Good point. I had a lot of homies from VA come into DC and do this shyt all the time. Only time I really remember going out to VA for some weekly was this event at this Sports Bar thats closed down that was in Fairfax years ago. Quite a few heads from DC and MD would go there and connect with the heads from VA there. And if you locked down a show or whatever in VA, you'll make the trip if you want to. But DC always had the venues that would let you get away with more shyt than VA. A few venues in MD would be like that too but, shyt...State Of The Union and Metro Cafe on U Street were the main spots at one point. fukk around with LIV/Bohemian Caverns and etc.

RIP

 

[Offthegrid]

DC remind me of Chicago so much just how the the city & suburban areas are set up I think all black cities are set up like that especially atl shyt is weird but DMV like my 3rd home one thing I give props to y'all is y'all nikkas be ahead of the curve in the fashion game I use to stay seeing y'all in nbs foams asics nikeboots Levis streetwear stussy supreme 10deep etc n northfaces back in 02-07my cousin put me on to NBS I was only rocking Jordan's Iverson's tmacs ones retro nikes timbs anything that was the wave in that era