Yep. I told some people I was cool with that they can take it but once October hits you SOL if you don’t have something else lined up.
Federal Employees, how ya'll feeling?
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I remember when the said it was a one time offer. Now it's up to round three. My agency is getting to a point we can't do our jobs because there is no one to support us getting our work done. It's become a joke. I doubt abrif will happen, but I would have seniority. I just want a good retirement deal.
Im a contractor but my agency fired a ton of govt staff. In our office of about 30 people, we lost 6. In addition to about 5 older folk who retired in the weeks before. Other offices it was as many as half their staff got RIF’d
We had weekly pop up meetings for a few months. Literally just to tell us ‘We dont know anything…this what we’re hearing but…’. But the last few meetings got more ominous, then the meeting the day before the RIF’s our director started crying for the first time. That’s when we knew it’s some people getting cut.
Sure enough the next day everyone is in office and 1 by 1 you hear a buzz ‘so n so got it’ then a steam of people come down my aisle hugging and crying folk. Mind you that morning they had some drinks (alcohol) and donuts out in the conference room folk was gettin lit just to deal with it and I understood. The most bizarre sad surreal shyt I’ve ever witnessed at a job
My advice to anyone is **apply for jobs as if you are next**. if you’re a contractor, assume your shyt won’t get renewed. If you’re govt, look to the most apolitical safe agencies possible (DOD, DOJ). Bc even if folk weren’t RIF’d I’ve heard they’re downgrading folk, a 13 was moved to a 9.
We had weekly pop up meetings for a few months. Literally just to tell us ‘We dont know anything…this what we’re hearing but…’. But the last few meetings got more ominous, then the meeting the day before the RIF’s our director started crying for the first time. That’s when we knew it’s some people getting cut.
Sure enough the next day everyone is in office and 1 by 1 you hear a buzz ‘so n so got it’ then a steam of people come down my aisle hugging and crying folk. Mind you that morning they had some drinks (alcohol) and donuts out in the conference room folk was gettin lit just to deal with it and I understood. The most bizarre sad surreal shyt I’ve ever witnessed at a job
My advice to anyone is **apply for jobs as if you are next**. if you’re a contractor, assume your shyt won’t get renewed. If you’re govt, look to the most apolitical safe agencies possible (DOD, DOJ). Bc even if folk weren’t RIF’d I’ve heard they’re downgrading folk, a 13 was moved to a 9.
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Laidbackman
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A 13 was moved down to a 9? Maybe that's not as bad as a RIF, but it's still a tough one, especially if you're single and paying a mortgage, or if you have children, etc... Even going from a 13 to a 12 is enough to send somebody into foreclosure. With the DMV having the most federal jobs, I'm not sure if I'm even coming up there this summer, for my usually one or two week vacation to see family. I already noticed an increase in tension during my last visit, seeing healthy brothers in their 40's and early 50's, panhandling outside the most upscale shopping strips in PG...but wearing designer jackets. I could sense a little attitude with some of them, when I told them I didn't have it. Took me back to the late 80's and early 90's, except they weren't wearing designer jackets while doing this, and they weren't doing it in nice areas.
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A 13 being moved down to a 9 is crazy
Yea it was a lot of rumor and ‘I heard’ type stuff that say especially but yea that’s what they said.
Not sure how prevalent that is but overall it’s just some wild stuff going on , especially if you’re in a political or political adjacent agency.
The God Poster
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I was under the impression you retained your old grade. For at least a year, no?A 13 being moved down to a 9 is crazy
Either way that’s a big ass drop. I’d hope they’d give a year to move around to another agency or position
Laidbackman
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A little off topic, but a glamour of hope. I had this racist professor teaching my first graduate class back in 96', which was an IT course. This was after hip-hop had made its mark, and produced big names like Ice Cube, Ice T, etc..., and after drugs had flooded our communities in the mid 80's, and they had named that generation, "Generation X". It meant they were crossed out like an "X", and practically marked for death, and were thought to soon join Malcolm X. And the only type girls checking for them were hoes and hoodrats. Believe me, most young White people in this age group wanted no parts of Generation X. For some of you, these were probably your older siblings.
On that first day in grad school, that racist nutty professor kept saying, "Nature Always Finds a Void". What this had to do with IT, I don't know. But he had said this repeatedly throughout the course. I was one of only three Blacks in this class, and one of them was biracial. This professor probably thought Black people anywhere close to Gen X, like I was, would be extinct by now, before he'd wound up teaching any of them in grad school. To me, "Nature Always Finds a Void" meant, no matter what society threw at us, we will always find an opening, and pull through it, even with the possibility of making big money, and no White man can stop us. Generation X should have proved that. Any Black generation can pull through anything, as long as they don't do anything stupid.
As some of you know, Project 2025 already happened to me back in 2006 after a PIP, at the hands of another racist, after I had worked with a bunch of 13s and 14s. In her eyes, the only thing I did wrong was stand up for what's right. I had to survive the lost of that job all alone, after everybody pretty much thought I was through, except the very few that were close to me in my family. As far as the last day on that job, which came outta nowhere, nobody really cared what was about to happen to me, and this included Black people. So there was no director crying, or a stream of people coming down an aisle hugging and weeping.
FF to today, I have a pretty nice retirement income because my retirement years continued to accumulate after 2006. And if I had all those internet side hustles in 2006, like they have today, it wouldn't be funny
But at some point in time, once you lived long enough to survive on, and can still have a little fun, it's not as much about money as you think, and you don't need a whole lot of it.
Edit: Anybody thinking to themselves, "What that White professor said wasn't racist", remember, this was just the first day. A racist prank he played on the last day of class, using his 14 year-old son to pull it off, was so messed up that I reported him. Wow, the things that go on at some of these PWIs that people don't hear about.
On that first day in grad school, that racist nutty professor kept saying, "Nature Always Finds a Void". What this had to do with IT, I don't know. But he had said this repeatedly throughout the course. I was one of only three Blacks in this class, and one of them was biracial. This professor probably thought Black people anywhere close to Gen X, like I was, would be extinct by now, before he'd wound up teaching any of them in grad school. To me, "Nature Always Finds a Void" meant, no matter what society threw at us, we will always find an opening, and pull through it, even with the possibility of making big money, and no White man can stop us. Generation X should have proved that. Any Black generation can pull through anything, as long as they don't do anything stupid.
As some of you know, Project 2025 already happened to me back in 2006 after a PIP, at the hands of another racist, after I had worked with a bunch of 13s and 14s. In her eyes, the only thing I did wrong was stand up for what's right. I had to survive the lost of that job all alone, after everybody pretty much thought I was through, except the very few that were close to me in my family. As far as the last day on that job, which came outta nowhere, nobody really cared what was about to happen to me, and this included Black people. So there was no director crying, or a stream of people coming down an aisle hugging and weeping.
FF to today, I have a pretty nice retirement income because my retirement years continued to accumulate after 2006. And if I had all those internet side hustles in 2006, like they have today, it wouldn't be funny
But at some point in time, once you lived long enough to survive on, and can still have a little fun, it's not as much about money as you think, and you don't need a whole lot of it.Edit: Anybody thinking to themselves, "What that White professor said wasn't racist", remember, this was just the first day. A racist prank he played on the last day of class, using his 14 year-old son to pull it off, was so messed up that I reported him. Wow, the things that go on at some of these PWIs that people don't hear about.
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Imagine being told that you have to move from DC to Fort Collins, Colorado, brehs...
They're shutting down all the DC buildings as well...smdh
Laidbackman
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Check out the video below. It looks like the taxpayer may be footing the bill instead, while a lot of government workers may see this as a blessing in disguise. But first I want to mention an old buddy of mine who called me last week, from up in the DMV. He's one of those who have over 30 years in the federal government, and he's in his mid 60's. To avoid the RIF, he's taking the offer, and will be outta there by September 30th. He says he and his wife will probably be selling, and getting a house down Florida. It's ironic that I came down here to Georgia exactly 20 years ago this month, after I was hit with a similar situation, and that sucka only visited me once. He said this has been a very rough ride for him, because within the last year, he suffered some family tragedies that were so sad, I don't want to mention them.
Minus his family tragedies, this is a walk in the park, compared to the situation I was hit with when I came down here. He gets to take his time deciding where he wants to relocate, then walk right into a pension. Myself, I only had a few weeks to a month to decide where I wanted to relocate, plus it was 2 and a half years before I saw my first check. This forced me to cash out my 60K TSP just to survive, which only lasted a short time. Some may be asking why I didn't just get a job during the interim. That was because I walked right into the stock market crash of 2008, which was the worst since the Great Depression. You think people have a hard turn finding a job today, on record this is nothing compared to 2008. Then I learned last year the my 60K TSP would have turned into $323,000 if I had left it in there...without even adding to it. But I'm not complaining, because that job almost killed me, and I mean literally. Like who wants to be the richest man in the cemetery. No amount of money could buy your life back, or even those last 20 years of freedom from that job.
Again, check out this video. It looks like other government employees may see this as a blessing in disguise as well, and not just the ones nearing retirement. However, she sorta threw me off, when she said this could result in more dependency on contractors. Although she could be right, my other buddy was one of those government contractors who got laid off a few months ago. However, I think most of that was because of disability and age discrimination.
Btw, so much for those few who were laughing when I mentioned the possibility of people in the DMV deciding to relocate to the South, as the result of Project 2025. I don't know what color they were, or what planet they were living on
Minus his family tragedies, this is a walk in the park, compared to the situation I was hit with when I came down here. He gets to take his time deciding where he wants to relocate, then walk right into a pension. Myself, I only had a few weeks to a month to decide where I wanted to relocate, plus it was 2 and a half years before I saw my first check. This forced me to cash out my 60K TSP just to survive, which only lasted a short time. Some may be asking why I didn't just get a job during the interim. That was because I walked right into the stock market crash of 2008, which was the worst since the Great Depression. You think people have a hard turn finding a job today, on record this is nothing compared to 2008. Then I learned last year the my 60K TSP would have turned into $323,000 if I had left it in there...without even adding to it. But I'm not complaining, because that job almost killed me, and I mean literally. Like who wants to be the richest man in the cemetery. No amount of money could buy your life back, or even those last 20 years of freedom from that job.
Again, check out this video. It looks like other government employees may see this as a blessing in disguise as well, and not just the ones nearing retirement. However, she sorta threw me off, when she said this could result in more dependency on contractors. Although she could be right, my other buddy was one of those government contractors who got laid off a few months ago. However, I think most of that was because of disability and age discrimination.
Btw, so much for those few who were laughing when I mentioned the possibility of people in the DMV deciding to relocate to the South, as the result of Project 2025. I don't know what color they were, or what planet they were living on
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06/10/25
Governor Moore Announces Grants for Maryland Institutions of Higher Learning to Help Address Teacher Shortage and Support Displaced Federal Employees
ANNAPOLIS, MD – Governor Wes Moore today announced that the Maryland Higher Education Commission will provide $1 million in grants to 11 colleges and universities to support new career paths for displaced federal workers. Through the Teacher Quality and Diversity Program, institutions of higher education can help federal workers secure jobs in education through targeted training, licensure support, and school district partnerships.
“Maryland is mobilizing. We refuse to stand idly by while the new federal administration fires public servants without cause and are doing everything in our power to put Marylanders first,” said Gov. Moore. “This funding helps our federal workers land on their feet, while also addressing the teacher shortage throughout our state. Together, we will continue to innovate, collaborate, and protect our people in the face of attacks from Washington.”
The governor announced the new grants during a roundtable discussion between higher education leadership and displaced federal workers enrolled in the ACET Flex: From Feds to Eds program at Montgomery College in Rockville. The discussion centered on innovative pathways to transition into careers in education through targeted retraining and certification programs, highlighting the value of federal employees’ diverse work experience and commitment to public service.
The new program advances Maryland’s mission to build a workforce that strengthens the future of education across the state. The initiative is a critical component to addressing educator shortages by expanding the pool of highly-skilled teacher candidates among public servants who may be seeking a new career path. As of mid-March, there were more than 1,600 teacher vacancies across the state of Maryland.
“Former federal employees have the skills and experience needed to provide a high-quality education and diversify our classrooms to reflect our communities,” said Maryland Higher Education Commission Secretary Dr. Sanjay Rai.“By implementing this grant program, we are helping to ease the transition into meaningful and stable careers while closing the teacher shortage.”
The program funding is the latest effort from the Moore-Miller Administration to help address Maryland’s teacher shortage. Earlier this month, Governor Moore signed The Excellence in Maryland Public Schools Act, which will bring more fully licensed teachers to the state through a national recruitment campaign and the Grow Your Own Educators Program, which supports debt-free pathways to obtain a teacher’s license.
Institutions receiving awards include:
- Bowie State University - “Meeting the Needs of Maryland’s Culturally and Linguistically Diverse Students: Training Underrepresented Teachers Through BSU’s M.Ed. in ESOL Program”
- Community College of Baltimore County - “Expanding Teacher Quality and Diversity”
- Goucher College - “Enhancing Alternative Programs for In-District Pathways”
- McDaniel College - “Transition to Teach Project”
- Montgomery College - “ACET Flex: From Feds to Eds”
- Morgan State University - “Transitioning to Teaching: A Strategic Response to Both the Diverse Teacher Shortage and Employment Crisis in Maryland”
- Notre Dame University of Maryland - “Advancing Diversity and Alternative Pathways in Preparing Teachers”
- Salisbury University - “USM Consortium Alternative Certification Pathway”
- Towson University - “Imagine: A Pathway to Teaching”
- University of Maryland, Baltimore County - “Designing Excellence: A Quality Driven Approach for Real-World Educators”
- University of Maryland, College Park - “USM Consortium Alternative Pathway”
Anybody else furloughed?
I am.
Got assigned as essential for a few hours though to complete something then went back home.
I am.
Got assigned as essential for a few hours though to complete something then went back home.
doesn't seem legal. with donnie making his plays and the Border czar getting caught taking a bag the corruption is gonna be skyhigh for those who stay.A 13 being moved down to a 9 is crazy
I mean imagine the lack of work ethic someone taking an extreme pay cut like that will have. The only reason I can see why they didn't resign (and take a contract position) is their job is so cake and they do absolutely nothing.
Either way that for 13 is gonna do the work of a GS 5 from now on.
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shyt's gonna backfire now those areas get new democrat voters. and now those republican legislators will have to fight for funding for their people and programs.
Imagine being told that you have to move from DC to Fort Collins, Colorado, brehs...
They're shutting down all the DC buildings as well...smdh