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As far as the Hogan/Yoko/Bret situation, I don't doubt that the Mania IX was agreed upon before they went out there and did it... but Hogan did pretty much manipulate that shyt to his benefit. At that time, WWF was coming into a new era and I understood that they had to use him while they still had him, but it's been said (even by Bret) that Hogan's involvement in that whole thing came about through Hogan still having the influence to convince Vince. He then went on to barely even show up on TV with the belt, dropped it to Yoko because he didn't feel Bret was ready... if Vince was really ready to jump with the new stars, I don't see how stuff like that woulda even happened. It took Hogan dropping the belt and leaving for it to finally become about the new generation. Before that, it was very much about Hogan/Warrior/Savage/Flair, and once all of them were out of the equation (within a matter of months no less), the WWF FINALLY moved along.
John Cena is cleaner and more square dealing than Hogan was, which is surprising considering that the 80s was a more wholesome decade.
Macho Man Randy Savage Wins the WWF Title - YouTube
at this guy not letting savage win square and fair
it actually did ruin macho man's draw and perception.
plus hogun attached himself cause he knew.
if macho was allowed to go by himself.
hogun would have been a non draw.
plus nwa was to real for him perception and charafter wise to jump to then.
macho had heat because of this,....i thought everyone knew, that is how they first had issues with one another.
macho always alluded to it,..or just flat out said it all the time.
macho was right about that,...as it ruined his convincability to draw as the top draw.
it was obvuous if you were a little older watching it.
especially given the fact macho was the most sadistic believeable lone character in wrasslin then.
macho should not have needed hogun to beat teddy.
nor should hogun been involved in macho's firat reign.
it severely crippled the macho character and made it look like.
macho was overly dependant on liz and hogun as a face.
when before that macho as a face character was unstoppable and had no stigma.
art barr
nah he had theface because dude said square and fair instead of fair and square
nah he had theface because dude said square and fair instead of fair and square
oops
In the 80s, the Hulk Hogan character was kinda a dikk to his friends most of the time. They pushed it as him just being the man, and his friends developing jealousy and turning on him... but to be the top guy, Hogan was a shady-ass, non-dependable, selfish friend, LMAO. Matter fact, the only alles it seems like he didn't fukk over was Mr. T and Beefcake.
Andre: portrayed as a former friend who was jealous of Hogan's success. But you go undefeated for years and get a trophy, then here comes Hogan to snatch the spotlight, and he gets a bigger trophy for being champ. You challenge him to a match for the title and he flat-out refuses until you push him into doing it. I mean, I get the angle- but it kinda makes Hogan look like someone who was happy keeping Andre at #2.
Orndorff: portrayed as a former friend who was jealous of Hogan's success and tired of being in Hogan's shadow. But when Hogan was in trouble, Orndorff was right there to help him. When Orndorff was in trouble, he couldn't even get him on the phone at the gym because he was busy working out.![]()
Savage: portrayed as former friend jealous of Hogan's relationship with his woman. Hogan's character acted thirsty as shyt about Elizabeth, eliminated Macho from the Rumble for no apparent reason when they were going in as "a unit", carried Elizabeth to the back while Savage got his ass beat by two 400-pound muhfukkas... meanwhile Savage is taking all of this in stride before finally losing his shyt and knockin' Hogan out. Why are we supposed to boo Savage?
and Sid: former friend jealous of Hogan just because. This one was almost too blatant for words. Hogan gets eliminated from the Rumble by Sid, acts like a sore loser, pulls Sid out of the ring which helps Ric Flair win... and he's the good guy?![]()
Anybody else does this shyt, he's the heel. If this was Ric Flair in NWA, backstabbing the other Horsemen and never being there for them, it woulda been the perfect villain. Hogan shyts on his friends and he's a hero!
It's funny tho', because if the Hogan character was truly kept consistent, the NWO turn makes it even better. It's like saying Hogan was always scandalous anyway and his true colors finally came out. Heenan used to say on commentary all the time "I was right about him all along!"![]()