fukk y'all lol.

[Rigby.]

This discussion should've happened next week after the Browns game..

I know Browns fans don't want to go past a guy who has won games after the past few QBs but he's performed on egg shells and finally one was big enough to cripple him. The same defense and offense is gonna be there, its just a matter of whether Manziel can actually perform like a NFL QB instead of a game manager like Hoyer.

 

[Boogie]

exactly where had the browns gone before hoyer?...no where....he's helped them win more games and be competitive this year than they have in years...

what has johnny shown that makes yall think he's this franchise saving qb?....and all that shyt yall talking about hoyer, the same can be said for johnny, the difference: hoyer has won games in this league.....but i know, johnny's flashier and the media likes him more, so you start him....i just cant wait to hear the excuses when the browns lose the next couple games with him starting.....

Dude you missing the whole point. It's established Hoyer is average, not great. Who cares if the Browns won, it's not like he was the only reason for their success.

Dude just ain't the QB you build a team around. Manziel can make plays, idc if he lose games this season just get him in the game so he can get some experience.

 

[Dayco23]

so if the browns lose with johnny starting, what does that say?....

it says they need to draft a QB in may

 

[lutha]

Dude you missing the whole point. It's established Hoyer is average, not great. Who cares if the Browns won, it's not like he was the only reason for their success.

Dude just ain't the QB you build a team around. Manziel can make plays, idc if he lose games this season just get him in the game so he can get some experience.

who cares if the browns won? how about the organization and the fanbase...they havent been in playoff contention for years....hell, havent had a winning record in years....they finally can achieve both this year with that avg qb...so how about backing him and seeing what happens the rest of the year(make/miss the playoffs, record, etc.), and decide about the change then...instead of not backing him, having him play on egg shells worried about losing the job despite winning so the team can go with the backup rookie qb with the media hype....and the browns wonder why they aint been shyt for years lol....

 

[lutha]

it says they need to draft a QB in may

and the browns wonder why they aint shyt lol

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

you cannot deny that Manziel's swag is off the charts. That first drive when he came in the game was just

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

This discussion should've happened next week after the Browns game..

I know Browns fans don't want to go past a guy who has won games after the past few QBs but he's performed on egg shells and finally one was big enough to cripple him. The same defense and offense is gonna be there, its just a matter of whether Manziel can actually perform like a NFL QB instead of a game manager like Hoyer.

Hoyer isn't even a game manager, cuh is ass. They were winning in spite of him. 0 TD's and 5 INT's the last two games

 

[Boogie]

who cares if the browns won? how about the organization and the fanbase...they havent been in playoff contention for years....hell, havent had a winning record in years....they finally can achieve both this year with that avg qb...so how about backing him and seeing what happens the rest of the year(make/miss the playoffs, record, etc.), and decide about the change then...instead of not backing him, having him play on egg shells worried about losing the job despite winning so the team can go with the backup rookie qb with the media hype....and the browns wonder why they aint been shyt for years lol....

Stop it...Hoyer has had plenty of chances and is starting to make too many mistakes. Why are you insisting the Browns settle for mediocrity?

 

[Remy LeBreh]

who cares if the browns won? how about the organization and the fanbase...they havent been in playoff contention for years....hell, havent had a winning record in years....they finally can achieve both this year with that avg qb...so how about backing him and seeing what happens the rest of the year(make/miss the playoffs, record, etc.), and decide about the change then...instead of not backing him, having him play on egg shells worried about losing the job despite winning so the team can go with the backup rookie qb with the media hype....and the browns wonder why they aint been shyt for years lol....

Can we ban this fakkit troll from the thread? It's obvious he hasn't watched a single Browns game. Manziel is leagues better skill wise than Hoyer, and if can is actually costing us wins what's the point of starting him


Manziel is the future and the season has already been a success basically we've already exceeded all expectations so why don't we see what johnny can do and get some real in game experience

 

[lutha]

Stop it...Hoyer has had plenty of chances and is starting to make too many mistakes. Why are you insisting the Browns settle for mediocrity?

you stop it...the browns havent backed hoyer since they drafted johnny...the guy has been playing on egg shells since then and winning despite not having that support....also, the browns making it to mediocrity would be a step up, they havent been shyt for years....but for some reason yall expecting them to go from shyt to sugar just like that....lol ok....seriously, when was the last time the browns had a winning record?....hoyer has them 2 games away from achieving that, but for some reason yall are so ready to make the qb change.....

 

[lutha]

Can we ban this fakkit troll from the thread? It's obvious he hasn't watched a single Browns game. Manziel is leagues better skill wise than Hoyer, and if can is actually costing us wins what's the point of starting him


Manziel is the future and the season has already been a success basically we've already exceeded all expectations so why don't we see what johnny can do and get some real in game experience

first: watch your mouth, we just having a convo...second: i dont do no troll shyt....

anyway, if johnny was leagues better than hoyer as you say, he wouldve gotten the starting job before now...hell, they wouldve started him at the beginning of the season and let him get that experience you talking about...

let me get this straight: the season not over and the browns have a shot at a winning record and the playoffs, but you ready to throw all that away just so you can see what an unproven guy can do cause you think he's the future?...lol aight man....i aint a browns fans, i'm just talking football, but if that's how browns fans think, yall can have it....

 

[Perfectson]

 

[Rigby.]

let me rephrase that, he used to be a game manager, now he's just there

Hoyer isn't even a game manager, cuh is ass. They were winning in spite of him. 0 TD's and 5 INT's the last two games

 

[King Poetic]

The bills was playing a loose defense plus nobody studied film on manziel..

I want to see manziel play when teams have a week to prepare

 

[Black]