Future - "Reasonable Doubt was not hot when it dropped"

[GreenGrass]

Nonsense.
Plenty albums were hot off top.

name a 2016 album that was hot soon as it dropped

 

[GreenGrass]

7 day theory was a disappointment initially since it wasn't a star studded death row album like AEOM.

you win

death ain't easy for anyone, breh

but AEOM was different. it was more a party album.

 

[lamont614]

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[IllmaticDelta]

time stamps included









Teedra Moses on Illmatic: ‘It Should Be a Course in College.’ (her husband rasKass was a nas fan)

Teedra Moses on Illmatic : ‘It Should Be a Course in College’


Illmatic Made Queens Rappers Stronger (Nore when he was in jail)


Illmatic Made Queens Rappers Stronger


Illmatic Put Yo Gotti in a New York State of Mind
The Memphis rapper recalls how the classic album shaped his view of the Big Apple.

Illmatic Put Yo Gotti in a New York State of Mind

 

[Piffery]

No one who was actually around then disagrees with this, it can't be disagreed with, it's a fact, wasn't nobody talking about no Jay-z album back then.

No one disagrees, no one talks about it, no one ever claims otherwise.
The only people who talk about it are the ones claiming it like you as if you're making some poignant point or disproving someone.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

name a 2016 album that was hot soon as it dropped

Lmao at you asking me to name hot-off-top 2016 albums in a discussion about a climate 20 years ago

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

nikkas think spamming Illmatic propaganda means something,it don't

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

nikkas think spamming Illmatic propaganda means something,it don't

Illmatic was hot tho it went platinum 7.5 years later

 

[spliz]

See my friends,this is how you shyt on weak posters. This dude that was so adamant about Nas changing the game with Illmatic has NOW went back on a couple of his stances.
First it was "He changed the game from nikkas biting the west"
Now it's "he changed the game from stagnation to active"
First "people were doing alot of biting before Illmatic"
Now "the biting was from 1994 to 1996"
Which is during and after illmatic.
And this proves illmatic did nothing you said it did.
Your stagnation argument is Null too. Dont come around anymore
This debate is over you a fukkin clown and should stop debating nikkas whom really lived it.
@StillNotSoft ,it's over,this nikka dont want it.
He's finished.

nikka I NEVER said Illmatic solely changed the game? I said it was a big deal for the east coast. U didn't shyt on nothing but yaself. I'm honestly tired of u corny ass nikkas. U been arguing ur OWN fukkin points the whole thread. Putting words in people's mouth. Ignoring facts posted. Running with ur own narrative. Bringing up shyt that is irrelevant. And call yaself shyttin on a weak poster? nikka I'm a stronger poster than u. Facts. U brought up ur OWN argument. Illmatic DID change the game. It changed the way nikkas approached they rhymes. Especially in NY. I dont care what the fukk u nikkas was doin in west bumblefukk. shyt had an all star production cast vs one producer like alotta hip hop albums had. Common said nikkas was tryna call him the Midwest Nas. Nas was the rap barometer kid.

 

[Still Benefited]

Illmatic was hot tho it went platinum 7.5 years later

So did reasonable doubt,after both these nikkas went on to actually drop albums that had a impact...like Future said people always go back.

That propaganda after the fact aint gon work IllmaticDelta.

That article said Itself the hype around Illmatic was nikkas hoping an wishing they had a answer for Snoop,and that they could finally grab the game back from the evil clutches of the west coast

With this "pure hiphop" album....Illmatic failed,they needed a whole avengers of albums to get the ball rolling...Illmatic was the Black Widow of those albums

So no Illmatic didnt bring interest back to the east,how can arguments like that be made,but then yall dont wanna take sales,and national impact into account

How else can i defend that but point out it didnt sell,and nikkas wasnt rockin wit it like that.

But when i do that yall wanna say "bu bu but its all about the quality"

 

[Still Benefited]

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You still working with 15 post per page?in 2016?oldschool shyt

 

[spliz]

nikkas think spamming Illmatic propaganda means something,it don't

And guess what. It got its place in history nikka. . Yea u definitely are. I don't see u responding to all the facts @IllmaticDelta posts cause u full of shyt dog. I already told him that he's a better poster than me cause he takes his time to post links n shyt like that. I don't have the patience for all that shyt.

 

[mobbinfms]

Illmatic was hot tho it went platinum 7.5 years later

I was wondering when you'd show up :prodigylol:

 

[spliz]

We just been scrimmaging the last few pages

Felt like we just went through a 30 man royal rumble,after being one of the first ones in the ring

Good debate yall,any more contenders?didnt think so

Yall nikkas both wrong. And yall only feel like yall winning cause yall either creating yall own arguments or completely ignoring facts presented to u. This is why I don't waste my time wit the posting of the links n all that shyt. I shouldn't even be wasting my time arguing wit nikka's who never gonna get it. It's a REASON yall literally the only 2 nikka's in the thread arguing yall point. Noone in theyre right mind who actually around at the time and wasn't a casual fan would argue Reasonable Doubt and Illmatic's impact was similar.

 

[spliz]

stop it.

Thank u. Now watch that retard completely not give a fukk about that link even tho it says the exact shyt I was saying. Lol. Ol hindsight what I was listening to in my house ass nikka.