Germany Just Abolished College Tuition Fees

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A bachelors degree would become HS diploma status. People are complaining about that now already.

This is indeed another aspect of the issue, but using it as an argument against free education is not very honest. We can't use financial barriers to crowd out people, what would be better is to better assess what people want and are capable of doing.
 

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i liked it when i was stationed in Baumholder :ehh:
and the hoes over there don't discriminate if you know what i mean :shaq:

best thing was driving on the left lane straight for hours on the Autobahn with no fukks to give :blessed:
 

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A bachelors degree would become HS diploma status.

Too fukking late. Just as bad an argument as "if we paid the low skilled scum more prices would go up on my McChicken sandwich :sadbron:" Yeah, that's kind of already happening and will continue to with these slave labor wages in effect.
 

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All jokes aside, I don't think I've ever seen a nation with more hype and hot air surrounding it, with the resources and know-how to boot, and has yet to ever truly and successfully deliver and live up to the hype. This measure sounds nice in practice, but I question its sustainability and practicability, because it sounds much too idealistic and has done nothing for the countries that have promoted it.

Okay, so in theory everyone will have access to higher education. But does this translate into everyone having an opportunity to succeed and becoming a productive member to the benefit of their society and nation? Being educated does not equal being successful or productive in the real world, not to mention that there aren't enough jobs -- good, well-paying ones -- for everyone. Does this allow students from poor backgrounds to break through the deeply entrenched and well-established class and even racial barriers of their societies to become productive members, or is it just back to mediocrity and feeling disillusioned and entitled to more than what's available to them because they're educated while living off the government? An angry underclass that had a taste of what the upper classes experience (that the government allowed them to experience), but there's a glass ceiling in real life that the government didn't tell them about that excludes them, and they want more because the government told them they are entitled to more while giving them a prolonged preview of what they could attain to be successful if they had a better lot in life? That sounds like a recipe for disaster and conflict, like the snake eating its own tail. What's the point of "freely" educating everyone when only the few with the complexion, the right social class, and the adequate monetary means more often than not are going to be the ones ending up succeeding in life and contributing to society, even in Germany? How is this beneficial for the lower classes and not arguably a colossal waste of money and potentially the seeds for an ugly confrontation and great social unrest? It's nice in theory, but it's a circle in futility and has potential to be a mess applied practically in the long run because it goes against the harsh realities of humankind.

It is amusing though how this is the country Europe looks towards to upset the power balance when it wasn't too long ago when they viewed Germany as the insecure try-hard who brought nothing but death and the destruction of Europe's hold on the world. Anything to topple America, I guess. At least China's actions had more meat to them and remained in the realm of the believable.
 

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All jokes aside, I don't think I've ever seen a nation with more hype and hot air surrounding it, with the resources and know-how to boot, and has yet to ever truly and successfully deliver and live up to the hype. This measure sounds nice in practice, but I question its sustainability and practicability, because it sounds much too idealistic and has done nothing for the countries that have promoted it.

Okay, so in theory everyone will have access to higher education. But does this translate into everyone having an opportunity to succeed and becoming a productive member to the benefit of their society and nation? Being educated does not equal being successful or productive in the real world, not to mention that there aren't enough jobs -- good, well-paying ones -- for everyone. Does this allow students from poor backgrounds to break through the deeply entrenched and well-established class and even racial barriers of their societies to become productive members, or is it just back to mediocrity and feeling disillusioned and entitled to more than what's available to them because they're educated while living off the government? An angry underclass that had a taste of what the upper classes experience (that the government allowed them to experience), but there's a glass ceiling in real life that the government didn't tell them about that excludes them, and they want more because the government told them they are entitled to more while giving them a prolonged preview of what they could attain to be successful if they had a better lot in life? That sounds like a recipe for disaster and conflict, like the snake eating its own tail. What's the point of "freely" educating everyone when only the few with the complexion, the right social class, and the adequate monetary means more often than not are going to be the ones ending up succeeding in life and contributing to society, even in Germany? How is this beneficial for the lower classes and not arguably a colossal waste of money and potentially the seeds for an ugly confrontation and great social unrest? It's nice in theory, but it's a circle in futility and has potential to be a mess applied practically in the long run because it goes against the harsh realities of humankind.

It is amusing though how this is the country Europe looks towards to upset the power balance when it wasn't too long ago when they viewed Germany as the insecure try-hard who brought nothing but death and the destruction of Europe's hold on the world. Anything to topple America, I guess. At least China's actions had more meat to them and remained in the realm of the believable.

:what: You are all over the place.
 

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And regarding Katrina, I don't care who does what (I'm sure people in NO didn't care either), if you can't handle shyt at home do go around parading breh.
The reason you don't care is because you don't know the difference between FEMA and the US military, and you don't have the mental capacity to make that happen.
 
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