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Awesome Wells said:
It's been over 20 years, with mad albums in between, it should just be called something else.

SC was a masterpiece. Our legends gotta stop throwing "2" behind their best album, decades after they dropped. Drop something new, with a new title and go from there. I'm curious to see who's behind the boards though. That's really the key to Ghost making another classic.
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I wonder what the thought process is behind that. Because I would think that with a sequel, you would want to do something thematically and sonically similar to the original. Work with the same people, explore similar themes, try to dissect what made the original album what it was. I don't think artists do that. They just make songs that might sound like their older work and call it a sequel just off that.

Like with Eminem when he released The Marshall Mathers LP 2. He said he called it that because people were reminded of his earlier work when they heard songs from it, but where were these songs on the album? It has nothing to do with the original, outside of "Bad Guy" and Eminem dyeing his hair blonde again. He worked on the album for over a year and at the time, he said it was the hardest he had ever worked on an album before. It makes me wonder what songs didn't make the album but could have, and maybe justified the album being a sequel.

Also, is it me, or are sequels just a hip hop thing? I don't see artists in other genres doing them. Seems like a lot of them would rather pretend most of their earlier albums don't exist and focus on what they're doing now. I know there are a lot of people that want Lady Gaga to make ARTPOP 2, but I don’t think she's actually going to sit there, call up DJ White Shadow and say, "Yeah, we need to spin the block again for this one."
 
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Yayo Toure said:
If Ye is on his shyt this can be an all time classic.

Just whatever happens keep Adrian Younge for away from Ghost.
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as talented as adrian younge is and as much as I was looking forward to the joint….that shyt literally put me to sleep.
 
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Mike the Executioner said:
I wonder what the thought process is behind that. Because I would think that with a sequel, you would want to do something thematically and sonically similar to the original. Work with the same people, explore similar themes, try to dissect what made the original album what it was. I don't think artists do that. They just make songs that might sound like their older work and call it a sequel just off that.

Like with Eminem when he released The Marshall Mathers LP 2. He said he called it that because people were reminded of his earlier work when they heard songs from it, but where were these songs on the album? It has nothing to do with the original, outside of "Bad Guy" and Eminem dyeing his hair blonde again. He worked on the album for over a year and at the time, he said it was the hardest he had ever worked on an album before. It makes me wonder what songs didn't make the album but could have, and maybe justified the album being a sequel.

Also, is it me, or are sequels just a hip hop thing? I don't see artists in other genres doing them. Seems like a lot of them would rather pretend most of their earlier albums don't exist and focus on what they're doing now. I know there are a lot of people that want Lady Gaga to make ARTPOP 2, but I don’t think she's actually going to sit there, call up DJ White Shadow and say, "Yeah, we need to spin the block again for this one."
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Word. I've always said the same. If you're doing a sequel, you should get the same crew back together and kinda just add on to what you did on the first album. Keep the same feel and vibe and just make new songs that match that. But I think MC's just use the sequel thing as a marketing move now because none of these sequels sound like they have anything to do with the first album, lol.

I think it's a Hip Hop thing. I don’t see artists in other genres doing sequels, and part three's and four's. If you have a classic, it is kinda exciting, as a fan, to hear that there's a sequel coming. Problem is, the news about the sequel is usually more exciting than the actual album, lol. Most MC's wait way too long to do these follow-up's. For example, Redman should've knocked out Muddy Waters 2 when he was still in his prime, no later than '98.
 
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Awesome Wells said:
Word. I've always said the same. If you're doing a sequel, you should get the same crew back together and kinda just add on to what you did on the first album. Keep the same feel and vibe and just make new songs that match that. But I think MC's just use the sequel thing as a marketing move now because none of these sequels sound like they have anything to do with the first album, lol.

I think it's a Hip Hop thing. I don’t see artists in other genres doing sequels, and part three's and four's. If you have a classic, it is kinda exciting, as a fan, to hear that there's a sequel coming. Problem is, the news about the sequel is usually more exciting than the actual album, lol. Most MC's wait way too long to do these follow-up's. For example, Redman should've knocked out Muddy Waters 2 when he was still in his prime, no later than '98.
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That's why I feel like Nas got it right by coming out with King's Disease II. That album actually does feel like a sequel. He knew him and Hit Boy had some great chemistry that was being more developed over time and they had to strike while the iron was hot. The album doesn't sound exactly like the first one, but it follows a similar path thematically. The sequencing/tracklist is so similar, I feel like that had to be intentional (the harder tracks in the beginning, the more relaxed/grown man tracks in the middle, unexpected guest features, a song with two younger rappers). It feels like Nas and Hit Boy actually took the time to look at King's Disease, see what worked and what didn't, and expand on that to make an even better album. If they had waited ten years later, who knows what it would have sounded like?

You know what would be interesting? If rappers didn't make sequels based on their best work, but their most underrated work, or even their worst work. It would be a chance to revisit songs that people don't remember or dislike, and improve on them. What if Nas got another chance to do Street's Disciple, and make the album he wanted to make without Columbia telling him no? Or maybe Eminem could give Revival another shot. Since he claims we didn't get it, how about the sequel has more hip hop features instead of pop features? Bring Dre and the Bass Brothers and Dina Rae back? Like a "revival" of your classic sound but in a modern context? I don't know, it's just an idea.
 
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I don't think we're seeing SC2 any time soon, much less if its produced by Ye.
 
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