Ghostface Killah- Supreme Clientele Part 2

[Redwood]

Listening to it right now, man his voice is shot

He's still spitting though and needs a Ricola.

 

[god shamgod]

Beat box dope I like this joint it’s short af tho

 

[DrexlersFade]

I agree with what you're saying.

Ultimately I don't think alot of older artists in any genre release majorly successful albums.

Past 45 years old.

Aerosmith
Billy Joel
Bob Dylan did

But who else?

I know that Funk band War did a huge show in LA recently and the lead singer is 76.

This is something new for Hip Hop and honestly Mass Appeal is doing a good, first time AND historical job here.

LL GOAT J

 

[Ziggiy]

Original album title was Indiana Tone & The Temple of Goons

 

[Supa]

Facts. That's the thing right there.

People love crying about clearance. But it's not that they can't get sh*t cleared. They don’t want to PAY for sh*t to get cleared.

That's a whole income for older artists from back in the day. They'll work with you. But a lot of MC's just don’t think it's worth paying for. And for a lot of them, their music suffers because of it.

If paying for samples is an issue they could just communicate that as guys like Al and Conductor have musicians who can replay things or make them loops. Use royalty free samples if need be.

Stones Throw got all the samples cleared for Madvillainy so it's mostly artists not wanting to pay anything. Sometimes you just need to make good music and with about the red tape later.

the best album they've put out wasn't part of the Legend Has It series.

It was Rome Streetz & Conductor Williams- Transpotting

Rome is 20 years younger than Ghost and hungry.

Legend Has It is better in concept than execution. Would've worked better if they paired the artists with one or two producers and made it organized. Just having everyone submit a random album isn't going to work. We have 3 albums coming from artists who aren't even alive so I'm not sure how they'll turn out.

De La has plenty of songs they worked on before Dave passed so that might turn out well.

Have and Al will have the production right but I'm not a fan of using posthumous verses and reverse engineering songs.

Big L I'm not even going to listen. That's going to be entirely stitched together.

Nas and Premier are going to have to salvage this.

Alc does a few things for samples
1. pays his own money out of pocket to get them cleared
2. Sacrifices publishing rights to get them cleared
3. Samples stuff too obscure to be easily found, and doesn’t clear anything. Sometimes he samples stuff where there isn’t even a known owner to have to pay at all.

I think he also pays flat rate prices to various people and catalogues for rights to sample anything they own. He samples a lot of “library music” and he pays WhoSampled.com for them to not publish his samples. You can’t find anything of his on there after 2021 or so. Roc Marci does that too. You can’t find his newer samples on there.

TLDR: ALC is in a financial position to afford to sacrifice money in order to make the music he wants. Most producers aren’t in that position.

I think it was Al and Madlib who said they've built relationships with a lot of artists they've sampled or if they've passed they've spoken to their family or whoever runs their estate. They'll clear samples at a fair price and work with them.

 

[qnsfinest]

I'm trying to figure out what the hell the Big L album is gonna be comprised of?

I have 0 expectations or knowledge of how that album is gonna be.

 

[ShaDynasty]

I'm not sure realistically RZA involvement is a positive at this point in time, sounds good on paper but what's the last dope beat RZA made? shyt, when's the last time he even made a hip hop track? Maybe shyts flying under my radar but last time I went to his spotify discography to see what hes been up to 8 went back 5 years and it was all movie score stuff

Hes producing a whole album for this japanese rapper Awich. Which I'm looking forward to less for the rapping but mainly because RZA is still a fascinating producer to me.

And I'm pretty sure he would have given production to Wu members, but they don't want his help.

 

[tremonthustler1]

I don't know what you all are talking about. This is dope.not Supreme Clientele level but still dope. Anyone expecting it to be as good as the first is crazy. Hardly anybody has made an album that good.

If Lil Wayne called Tha Carter VI just something random, fans would still say it sucked, but at least they wouldn't be hurt and disappointed by lumping in shyt with a series that they feel is legendary.

It feels like a marketing stunt that really wasn't necessary. GFK has a legion of fans who rock with whatever he drops. Naming it Supreme Clientele 2 wasn't gonna bring newer fans in. It was just gonna raise expectations for whatever he was gonna put out. Don't unnecessarily raise the bar if you're not gonna meet the challenge. All he did with this was guarantee nobody will ask for a third installment, whereas if Rae wants to do OB4CL3, we'll anticipate it.

 

[Redwood]

How nikkas felt about Wayne's new Carter album is how I feel about this album

The Pretty Tony Album is WAY is better than this shyt don't even mention SC1

Rae's shyt was at least mostly solid

1993-2007 Ghostface (the emcee) is dead brehs

I'm not trying to hear a washed up ghost rambling mid shyt over mc lyte beats

2.5/10, would not listen again shyts don't even flow like an album sounds like a compilation/mixtape

Yeah this sounds like it should be Hidden Darts part 2

Curious about @BmoreGorilla 's thoughts...

 

[Kaydigi]

3 Mic's at best,

Is the MOP track even new, I don't think they put out new music together in years.

 

[u mad son?]

Hes producing a whole album for this japanese rapper Awich. Which I'm looking forward to less for the rapping but mainly because RZA is still a fascinating producer to me.

And I'm pretty sure he would have given production to Wu members, but they don't want his help.

He actually came thru crazy with production for awitch

 

[KingSol81]

Glad I'm not alone.

I just went googaling around and I guess the family released a statement saying its gonna be tracks that have been taken down from streaming the past few years, freestyles and "a couple surprises"

I imagine there has to be some amount of unreleased Wolf Pack songs, maybe they'll be the "couple surprises"

 

[Redwood]

Original album title was Indiana Tone & The Temple of Goons

Word?

It should've been this or Hidden Darts 2

This is picking up on the second half though

 

[KingSol81]

Hes producing a whole album for this japanese rapper Awich. Which I'm looking forward to less for the rapping but mainly because RZA is still a fascinating producer to me.

And I'm pretty sure he would have given production to Wu members, but they don't want his help.

Yeah, after @Barney Rubble posted the Dave East track I went on spotify to see what else I missed recently and found the 2 tracks with ASAP Ferg and the Japanese girl, beats were ok but yeah I'm not overly excited for a RZA produced album by an overseas female

I would have hoped for one last RZA produced Wu album to coincide with the farewell tour but i doubt that will happen

 

[KingSol81]

3 Mic's at best,

Is the MOP track even new, I don't think they put out new music together in years.

Most of these aren't new, primarily songs from 2007-2009, Iron Man is relatively new I think, the producer is a dude from Staten who's been working with Wu members from 2017 on from what I could tell