Glasses Malone & Charlamagne Debate - Who was the bigger star, while alive. 2pac or Snoop?

[kingofnyc]

Right meaning ONE of many..

ANY songs in the top 100

Whereas you said ALL...Nobody mentioned ALL of Pac songs.

Stop it breh...

at the end of the day pac pre DR vs snoop

take the top 10 songs outta both
snoop would have 9 to pac’s 1

 

[kingofnyc]

Of ourse we talking about social problems among the black community, because that's what the song is about. U cannot dismiss the essence of the song and say otherwise. I don't think the song was meant to be a hit single even tho it was popular back then. And let's not forget it is critically acclaimed.

And your logic is flawed because, according to you, a song is mediocre because it's not a hit single ? What type of thinking is that ?

its no reason to get into social songs or it being critically acclaimed - this was da 90’s we didn't give 2 shyts about that back then

and my logic isn't flawed :
mediocre essentially means average or the middle (as far as quality, street, video, radio, club play ‘keep ur head up’ & ‘i get around’ was indeed mediocre

again i can name about 20 to 25 joints that exceeded them categories listed

 

[FeloniousMonk]

at the end of the day pac pre DR vs snoop

take the top 10 songs outta both
snoop would have 9 to pac’s 1

At the end of the Day I showed you a Pac song in the Top 100 of all time.

Whereas the other top songs where Dre songs with Snoop features.

Any argument you have after that is moot..

 

[Rhyme n Tekniq]

stupid ass nikkas in here

Pac and DeathRow coming together was a perfect storm of fukkery, Both where controversial forces in hiphop prior to linking up, always a news story about,
some DR shyt or Pac getting into some shyt back then. retarded Mfers in here acting like Pac was just cold , Dude had a #1 album while in prison. Movies in post production and a bunch of other shyt.

I dont have the energy nor desire to fight with trolls and fukk nikkas and engage in a flame war as old as the internet iself. shyt is beyond played out and resolves nothing because the facts are the fact are the muthafukkin facts

1. Pac will be the GOAT despite whatever contrarian ass narrative trolls and fukk nikkas try to push
2. Eminem will always have a well-earned spot in hip hop but he will never be seen as the GOAT, fukk with KTT and PitchFork readers say
3. 50 will be forever a hip hop legend and solid in the streets no matter how many times some bum ass nikka comes out of the woodwork discrediting him like a jilted ex

I could go on but I think you nikkas get the point.

 

[Guizmo]

its no reason to get into social songs or it being critically acclaimed - this was da 90’s we didn't give 2 shyts about that back then

and my logic isn't flawed :
mediocre essentially means average or the middle (as far as quality, street, video, radio, club play ‘keep ur head up’ & ‘i get around’ was indeed mediocre

again i can name about 20 to 25 joints that exceeded them categories listed

Of course there is a reason to get into social songs. That was the whole purpose of the song and the album (2pacalypse now). As the matter of fact, his first two album was more social oriented. And you're wrong. Maybe u didn't give a fukk about conscious song but some people did.

keep ya head up ain't mediocre. U're puting your own criteria to judge if a song is mediocre or not. Since when a club play or a street are criteria to judge if a song is mediocre or not ? You're totally biased. You can dislike the song but don't call it mediocre. I don't like any of Biggie song, but im not gonna call it mediocre or shytty.

 

[Lucky Me]

do u oldheads ever get tired of arguing about shyt that happened 30 years ago?

 

[prophecypro]

I mean from the time specified 93-96 overall Snoop

Even when All Eyez on Me dropped, people were still waiting for the follow up to Doggystyle.
Snoop's trial seem to get a little bit more attention than Pac's too

 

[Bigsuk]

Snoop was from 1993 to 1995.. then Tupac 1995-1996 was bigger.

Facts ..... totally agree with glasses 93/94 .... me against the world /all eyez on me pac smashed snoop plus pac was doing films back to back wen he got outa prison..... I might bash pac for some ov his beefs or other shyt he was doing but hands down while alive pac was the hardest working cat in hip hop ...I don’t think there’s a rapper out there that match’s pacs passion/charisma to this day hands down ....

 

[Bigsuk]

Glasses is deffo trying to get more shine from using a dead rappers name .... the pac must die video then this .... I think it’s corny as hell wen rappers or celebrity’s use anyone who’s dead to get shine ....

 

[Bigsuk]

Snoop was never has popular as 2pac, there was a reason Suge Knight got him out of jail so he could sign with Death Row, Pac was a movie star also, and his persona was larger than life. Snoop was just a rapper, white people like his music, so he had big commercial records, but it didn't have star aura about him.

He didn't become the Snoop Dog house hold name until after Death Row when he changed his image from a street killer to a weed smoking laid back cool uncle image

stop with this revisionist history, Snoop Dog was never as big as DMX was at his peak, stop it with this shyt, DMX sold more records than Pac even after Death that's how big he was

dmx is 1 ov my fav rappers n yes there rap styles are totally different but let’s not forget. Around the time ja rule n dmx were blowing up people were lookin for the “next pac “. Dmx has spoken a few times about that ... so no doubt his albums will sell a lot cause what the fans wanted ...

 

[tuckgod]

Snoop was a way bigger star.

Anybody that says otherwise don’t know what the fukk they talking about.

I’m not debating it so don’t quote me.

 

[Bigsuk]

I love Pac, but there’s a pattern of nikkas ACTUALLY from LA that don’t fw Pac (Glasses, 03 Greedo, etc.) .. there has to be something to that

Always thought they felt a certain way about pac getting down with mob piru / fighting a well respected crip in the mgm .... greedo said that on his big boy interview ...

 

[kingofnyc]

At the end of the Day I showed you a Pac song in the Top 100 of all time.

Whereas the other top songs where Dre songs with Snoop features.

Any argument you have after that is moot..

dre songs, featuring snoop {YET} ........ snoop wrote dem songs

 

[kingofnyc]

Of course there is a reason to get into social songs. That was the whole purpose of the song and the album (2pacalypse now). As the matter of fact, his first two album was more social oriented. And you're wrong. Maybe u didn't give a fukk about conscious song but some people did.

keep ya head up ain't mediocre. U're puting your own criteria to judge if a song is mediocre or not. Since when a club play or a street are criteria to judge if a song is mediocre or not ? You're totally biased. You can dislike the song but don't call it mediocre. I don't like any of Biggie song, but im not gonna call it mediocre or shytty.

Listen we can keep going back-and-forth it really doesn’t matter people like what they like and they don’t like what they don’t like
the problem with you type of nikkaz..... u just wasn’t around back then
y’all hate to face the truth/reality of what the people felt back then..... you don’t have to take my word of me calling his songs mediocre go and pick up an old source magazine or any hip-hop/urban music magazine or publications that reviewed his first few albums and it will tell you all you need to know

 

[Alvin]

hmm,

idk pac was famous first before snoop, but snoop had a higher high from 93-95, then Pac dropped AEOM and The 3 Day Theory and he was carrying DR from that point.