Goku and Vegeta vs. Superman and Flash

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Exactly my point, with Superman/DC, Marvel doesn't exist.

You would have had a point if DC wasn't trying to bite of Marvel every chance they get. "Death of the New Gods" then Marvel successfully implements Thor, Thanos and all their mythos into the cinematic universe and DC revives Darkseid and all of Fourth World to compete with Marvel lmao!! Jack Kirby is laughing in his grave. Goku and DBZ are starting to become more iconic than Supes so they make him more like Goku...... Even give him his own version of Vegeta "H'el"
Y'all New 52 negros need to stawp lmao!

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

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No. Dragon Ball was based off JTTW. DBZ was an obvious Superman homage. Alien sent to Earth from a soon to destroyed planet that grows into the protector of the planet

You mean like Moses?

 

[5n0man]

Yeah .5 seconds of time stop for anyone else combined with hits insane reactions. Piccolo in manga called his attack light of death. Not even accounting for DBS goku by end of z was multisolar system level at least. How many versions of supes can deal with that? Goku is universal+ in super even with beerus holding back him and goku created universe destorying shock waves(if beerus was hitting that much harder ignore in wanna give him credit goku would've been pushed back instead of blow for blow.

Again, your ignoring how fast the flash really is. Hits reaction time and that .5 second's isn't that amazing when you consider that flash can perceive the entire history of the universe in the blink of an eye. What's .5 seconds to a time traveler? Flash is fast enough to be in two places at once.

This is why these debates are pointless, it just turns to yall giving the worst examples of these characters feats and ignoring any feats showing these characters on another level.

Supreman has BEEN shown to be that powerful for decades. It's been explained that the reason he doesn't use that strength is cause he could destroy the world on accident. He doesn't move faster than light cause his speed would split the world in two. He won't use his full strength cause his sense of moral won't let him completely dominate his foe.

If we're talking about different versionstyles of superman then pre crisis superman can kill beerus.

NOBODY is fukking with him if we're talking about different versions of superman.


And I'm not even saying current superman is stronger than goku. Goku could be him, it's the flash that would be the real problem. And it's not his strength.

 

[Draje]

Yeah .5 seconds of time stop for anyone else combined with hits insane reactions. Piccolo in manga called his attack light of death. Not even accounting for DBS goku by end of z was multisolar system level at least. How many versions of supes can deal with that? Goku is universal+ in super even with beerus holding back him and goku created universe destorying shock waves(if beerus was hitting that much harder ignore in wanna give him credit goku would've been pushed back instead of blow for blow.

Umm...no. He literally said that the difference growing from .1 second to .5 seconds was too much for Goku to cope with and it was. If that minute difference matters at all, it shows how much slower they are. Superman has shown NANOSECOND reaction speeds at the lowest and ATTOSECOND.

1 Nanosecond =
0.000000001 Seconds

An attosecond is 1×10−18 of a second (one quintillionth of a second).[1] For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years.

The name of the attack doesn't mean anything. Japanese attack names have goofy sounding fukking names all the time. Piccolo has another attack called Hellzone Grenade but it's not an actual grenade.

What proof do you have that Goku was multi-solar system busting at the end of Z?

And I posted scans of Superman fracturing multiple realities when clashing with one of his equals already. We've seen Goku fight all out AFTER Beerus against Goku Black and Zamasu but they weren't threatening the universe so it seems like it was more Beerus than Goku.

 

[Black Nate Grey]

You would have had a point if DC wasn't trying to bite of Marvel every chance they get. "Death of the New Gods" then Marvel successfully implements Thor, Thanos and all their mythos into the cinematic universe and DC revives Darkseid and all of Fourth World to compete with Marvel lmao!! Jack Kirby is laughing in his grave. Goku and DBZ are starting to become more iconic than Supes so they make him more like Goku...... Even give him his own version of Vegeta "H'el"
Y'all New 52 negros need to stawp lmao!

Thanos is based off of the New Gods though. Metron to be exact. Jim Starlin said it himself.
You're reaching so far, Reed Richards would be envious.

Darkseid is the ultimate big bad in DC of course they will use him.

H'el wasn't vegeta lol
If he was than what was Cyborg Superman? Ultraman? Eradicator?

 

[Barnett114]

Goku and Vegata

 

[Draje]

This nikka is talking like the difference between .1 second (When Goku can react) to .5 seconds (Goku can't react) is huge and ignoring the fact that Superman has perceived and reacted to fukking ATTOSECONDS.

An attosecond is 1×10−18 of a second (one quintillionth of a second).

A difference of .4 seconds wouldn't register to beings moving faster than light

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Darkseid is the ultimate big bad in DC of course they will use him.

He is the ultimate big bad but DC decides to Kill him and everybody from the Fourth World franchise off because they weren't creative enough to know what to with them......then bring them back after Marvel shows them the way lmao!

K

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

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This nikka trying to be the Silver Surfer and Galactus now? Lmao! he the Copper Coaster

 

[Black Nate Grey]

He is the ultimate big bad but DC decides to Kill him and everybody from the Fourth World franchise off because they weren't creative enough to know what to with them......then bring them back after Marvel shows them the way lmao!

K

Marvel comics have been straight Basura the past couple of years.
DC Rebirth is killing them.
The only marvel titles worth reading are Ultimates, Thanos, Thor/BP

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

What have Goku and Vegeta done to show that they would even be a threat to Superman and Flash?

 

[Green negs and spam]

Feats for Goku and Vegeta please. I'm a huge Dragonball fan but I need to see real evidence of their capabilities. In Super Vegeta was unable to lift 1000 tonnes even in his Super Saiyan form.

 

[5n0man]

This nikka trying to be the Silver Surfer and Galactus now? Lmao! he the Copper Coaster

He spend 15,000 years inside a sun, his power was said to be infinite.

Point is ol boy said no version of superman has been shown to as strong as goku when truthfully, superman has been potrayed as being much stronger than goku many times.

And it's laughable how people really gonna act like goku and vegeta is as fast as flash or even superman when it takes them minutes to travel to places on earth.

 

[5n0man]

Feats for Goku and Vegeta please. I'm a huge Dragonball fan but I need to see real evidence of their capabilities. In Super Vegeta was unable to lift 1000 tonnes even in his Super Saiyan form.

But he's as strong as superman

Even with ssb, these nikkas are just barely getting on kal El level.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

He spend 15,000 years inside a sun, his power was said to be infinite.

Point is ol boy said no version of superman has been shown to as strong as goku when truthfully, superman has been potrayed as being much stronger than goku many times.

And it's laughable how people really gonna act like goku and vegeta is as fast as flash or even superman when it takes them minutes to travel to places on earth.

Lmao Gokus granddaughter Pan was flying around the entire planet multiple times in a matter of seconds at the tender age of 4. She is only 1/4 Saiyan so I'm suppose to believe that two full blooded, full grown and full powered Saiyan warriors can't do the same or more? LMAO!

K