Good thing we voted the House blue back in November.......

[AnonymityX1000]

They want a symbolic move I guess?

Yes, and if you don't do it you suppress the Democratic vote. You need to try and impeach them as a good faith move to your base even if it doesn't work.
You can't run around saying he is the worst ever, a traitor in league with a foreign nation his entire presidency and do nothing. It makes Democrats look weak and that they are full of shyt. No one wants to vote for people like that. You have to try and impeach him even if it doesn't work.
Why do you think when the House was Republican they kept trying to repeal Obamacare? Obama would never sign it and the Senate rejected it over and over. It was a good faith move to their base to show they are trying and not just full of shyt.

 

[FAH1223]

Can you name a single President who has been impeached who's hearing made it to, and voted on in the Senate?

Clinton.

But the Senate didn’t have the votes to remove him from office.

 

[hashmander]

The purpose of winning the house was to conduct oversight and slow the Trump agenda to a crawl/stop.

Any other dream is foolhardy.

especially when laws take 3 parties to go into effect. the house is just one part. there is no way the democrats turned red districts blue with relatively moderate candidates with impeachment being the top priority for those voters. impeachment is the top priority for voters in safe districts and if you let them lead the way you'll never have control of anything.

this isn't new. throughout history voters have decided to throw a wrench in the process by putting a check on a president in the midterms. and it's worse in these hyper-partisan times. voters prefer gridlock under the guise of wanting bi-partisanship.

Many of the freshman are doing work. The old guard ain't doing shid.

what kinda work? nothing they say will result in any kind of lawmaking because the power isn't there. the senate won't approve it and trump for damn sure would veto if it got past them. talk is cheap and you all love symbolism.

 

[LurkMoar]

Yes, and if you don't do it you suppress the Democratic vote. You need to try and impeach them as a good faith move to your base even if it doesn't work.
You can't run around saying he is the worst ever, a traitor in league with a foreign nation his entire presidency and do nothing. It makes Democrats look weak and that they are full of shyt. No one wants to vote for people like that. You have to try and impeach him even if it doesn't work.
Why do you think when the House was Republican they kept trying to repeal Obamacare? Obama would never sign it and the Senate rejected it over and over. It was a good faith move to their base to show they are trying and not just full of shyt.

Fair enough

 

[hashmander]

Yes, and if you don't do it you suppress the Democratic vote. You need to try and impeach them as a good faith move to your base even if it doesn't work.
You can't run around saying he is the worst ever, a traitor in league with a foreign nation his entire presidency and do nothing. It makes Democrats look weak and that they are full of shyt. No one wants to vote for people like that. You have to try and impeach him even if it doesn't work.
Why do you think when the House was Republican they kept trying to repeal Obamacare? Obama would never sign it and the Senate rejected it over and over. It was a good faith move to their base to show they are trying and not just full of shyt.

and honestly if trump the tyrant, lawbreaking, traitor, etc campaign was as effective as the outside rightwing group's attacks on obamacare where people who used it and liked it then hated it; the democrats would be doing symbolic impeachment votes right now. don't expect either party to be the ones leading the way, they'll go where their voters go. it's only when it's time to clearly lay out what you're repealing and taking away from people do repeal efforts fail and it's always in the senate where they have to appeal to an entire state's voting populace and not just a gerrymandered district.

 

[Foxmulder]

How you gonna Impeach with a Republican senate


You nikkas blind or something

You impeach and document his crimes, fire up your base and run on the Republicans supporting a criminal and racist in the White House.

 

[FAH1223]

what kinda work? nothing they say will result in any kind of lawmaking because the power isn't there. the senate won't approve it and trump for damn sure would veto if it got past them. talk is cheap and you all love symbolism.

It’s not symbolism to being proactive and doing the work that a lawmaker should be doing.

Exploring ideas and policies is work. Having services done for your district is work!

Preparing for committee hearings and doing the the preparation is work.

People like Katie Porter, Joe Neguse are examples of this.

A lot of members on the Hill do “call time” which is fundraising and then there’s not much else! Lots of gossiping, twindling their thumbs, etc.

 

[AZBeauty]

The New York Times
The bill would more than double the federal minimum wage, which is $7.25 an hour — about $15,000 a year for someone working 40 hours a week, or about $10,000 less than the federal poverty level for a family of 4.


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House Votes to Raise Federal Minimum Wage to $15
The House approved a bill to more than double the federal minimum wage of $7.25, a level that has not risen since 2009. Its prospects are dim in the Senate.

dems do nothing

Every bill they pass, has no chance in the Senate but they still pass them anyway. Impeachment would be no different.

The logic that impeaching Trump will somehow push his support over the line to win re-election versus the loss of support for doing nothing after many bold promises in 2018 is baffling and arrogant to me.

You can't pander to a subset of constituents with one foot in and one foot out the door and be confident you're going to retain 100% of your existing constituency.

Depress your base, lowering voter turnout or show strength and impeach Trump for ALL the impeachable things he has done. Seems like people prefer Democrats show weakness because Republicans won't agree to go along with them. Govern based on how Republicans will respond to motivate your base. lol

 

[hashmander]

It’s not symbolism to being proactive and doing the work that a lawmaker should be doing.

Exploring ideas and policies is work. Having services done for your district is work!

Preparing for committee hearings and doing the the preparation is work.

People like Katie Porter, Joe Neguse are examples of this.

A lot of members on the Hill do “call time” which is fundraising and then there’s not much else! Lots of gossiping, twindling their thumbs, etc.

no symbolism is pointless impeachment votes to appeal to a small subset of voters. the rest is what the vast majority do, not just freshmen. services done for your district is congressperson 101.

 

[hashmander]

Every bill they pass, has no chance in the Senate but they still pass them anyway. Impeachment would be no different.

yeah but bills like the above are a way of signaling what each party values. the democrats in congress obviously aren't interested in signaling that they care about impeachment.

 

[Hood Critic]

Clinton.

But the Senate didn’t have the votes to remove him from office.

And that is exactly where this fantasy that impeachment will help Trump comes from. Clinton was already a popular President in his second term and there was belief that if he could have ran for a third term he would have won because the general population felt that he was being impeached for the sexual act itself and not the lying about it.

 

[FAH1223]

no symbolism is pointless impeachment votes to appeal to a small subset of voters. the rest is what the vast majority do, not just freshmen. services done for your district is congressperson 101.

You’d be surprised. I’ve heard how bad some offices are in my days interning at the Library of Congress and chatting with friends in that part of town.

 

[hashmander]

You’d be surprised. I’ve heard how bad some offices are in my days interning at the Library of Congress and chatting with friends in that part of town.

they're probably in safe districts with no expectations. my district isn't safe so mine is constantly in contact letting me know what she's doing and she's no leftwing freshman.

 

[LurkMoar]

You impeach and document his crimes, fire up your base and run on the Republicans supporting a criminal and racist in the White House.

You nikkas move like elementary kids, really no strategy out here.

Who gives a fukk about the base


Voters in dem dominant states DONT MATTER, we won the house because of moderate suburban voters


When will you numbskulls get it? The same suburban white women who voted for trump are the ones who’ve switched it up for the dems in 2018. Those are the people who will win it for us in 2020


If you live in New York or Cali don’t even speak on politics... You don’t matter, literally.

 

[AZBeauty]

yeah but bills like the above are a way of signaling what each party values. the democrats in congress obviously aren't interested in signaling that they care about impeachment.

I dont think there is a small subset of Dem voters who want impeachment. I think more voters are either scared it will embolden Trump because they listen to whomever says this lol or they know Senate wont convict. That still doesn't mean you dont do what the constitution gives you the power to do when a president acts as Trump has. You have to hold him accountable or come 2020 or 2024, he'll declare himself King and tell the Dems to kick rocks. It's all about holding him accountable. That's what they are supposed to do.