Goodbye, $165,000 Tech Jobs. Student Coders Seek Work at Chipotle.

[num123]

I agree. Unfortunately the people who really run shyt are greedy and will ring what they can out of this country dry before moving on to the next land of opportunity

Welp, that is why we have a voting system but a combination of bothsides/not voting/apathy have let the citizens fukk themselves over.

 

[Claudex]

I agree. Unfortunately the people who really run shyt are greedy and will ring what they can out of this country dry before moving on to the next land of opportunity

Welp, that is why we have a voting system but a combination of bothsides/not voting/apathy have let the citizens fukk themselves over.

The $100K H-1B fee is a stick, but it’s only half of an approach. It raises the cost of foreign hires, but by itself it don't magically create opportunities for Americans...that shyt just leaves companies with higher costs and an incentive to lobby for loopholes.

For the EO to land properly, the government gotta provide the carrots too: Subsidize training pipelines for Americans, offer tax breaks for firms that retrain or hire locally, enforce wage protections (for the current foreigners) so visas can’t be used as a discount trick...

nikka... you know what, align the executive rewards (bonuses and all that other shyt) with domestic job creation rather than just stock prices.

Without those parallel moves, all this shyt is just a headline grab. shyt looks tough, but companies will either eat the cost, offshore more work, or push for exemptions.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Whose alias is this?

He’s not wrong before IT became a viable career path, back then between 2005-2013 ppl thought it was trash career field. The only reason I didn’t go in IT was because my parents understood nothing about computers

 

[NinoBrown]

Lots of fear mongering in here....still thriving thru the pandemic and Trump Part 2....

 

[num123]

He’s not wrong before IT became a viable career path, back then between 2005-2013 ppl thought it was trash career field. The only reason I didn’t go in IT was because my parents understood nothing about computers

What? What are you talking about? You may say there were people that did not understand the field but do not say I.T was not a viable field during that time.

I am 40 and maybe it is because I am from the Bay, but I was familiar with not only the field (eventually got into it), but also people working it as well. People were making money back then easily, for example it was common for people to get six figures straight out of college and/or a good paying job secured before they graduated.

We are not even mentioning all of the jobs that you could get with certifications as well. shyt has always been viable and money making, it is not something that just happened in the last 10 years.

 

[JT-Money]

What? What are you talking about? You may say there were people that did not understand the field but do not say I.T was not a viable field during that time.

I am 40 and maybe it is because I am from the Bay, but I was familiar with not only the field (eventually got into it), but also people working it as well. People were making money back then easily, for example it was common for people to get six figures straight out of college and/or a good paying job secured before they graduated.

We are not even mentioning all of the jobs that you could get with certifications as well. shyt has always been viable and money making, it is not something that just happened in the last 10 years.

Technology occupations have consistently been the fastest growing occupation since 2000 according to the BLS. Some of these dudes need to go outside.

 

[IIVI]

He’s not wrong before IT became a viable career path, back then between 2005-2013 ppl thought it was trash career field. The only reason I didn’t go in IT was because my parents understood nothing about computers

shyt, honestly even now STEM isn’t that popular of a career path.

Remember, out of all American college graduates less than 25% go into something STEM-related.

Of those 25% it breaks down something like:
Only 6% of total graduates go into any kind of Engineering field.

Only 5% go into Computer Science.

1.5% go into Physics or Math (mainly Statistics).

The largest is Biology and Medical at 15%. Many of these are healthcare administration majors, so not even Doctors/Nurses.

That’s at least what ChatGPT/Deep Research gives. People would like to be in these fields so they’re culturally popular, but there’s something called “difficulty” that makes less people finish these degrees.

 

[JT-Money]

shyt, honestly even now STEM isn’t that popular of a career path.

Remember, out of all American college graduates less than 25% go into something STEM-related.

Of those 25% it breaks down something like:
Only 6% of total graduates go into any kind of Engineering field.

Only 5% go into Computer Science.

1.5% go into Physics or Math (mainly Statistics).

The largest is Biology and Medical at 15%. Many of these are healthcare administration majors, so not even Doctors/Nurses.

That’s at least what ChatGPT/Deep Research gives. People would like to be in these fields but there’s something called “difficulty”.

Over 50% of people in technology jobs don't have a Bachelors degree.

U.S. STEM Workforce: Size, Growth, and Employment​

The STEM Labor Force: Scientists, Engineers, and Skilled Technical Workers | NSF - National Science Foundation

Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) workers make important contributions to improve the nation's living standards, economic growth, and global competitiveness. This report touches on the size, growth, education, salary, and diversity of the STEM workforce. STEM occupations...

ncses.nsf.gov

In 2021, 24% of the U.S. workforce worked in STEM occupations (36.8 million workers), of which more than half (52%) did not have a bachelor’s degree and therefore were classified as the STW.

 

[T-K-G]

He’s not wrong before IT became a viable career path, back then between 2005-2013 ppl thought it was trash career field. The only reason I didn’t go in IT was because my parents understood nothing about computers

That's straight up not true my brother graduated college in 2006 with a Comp Science degree and immediately had a high paying contract w/the Navy flying him all over the country, it was plenty viable back then

Only people thinking it was a trash field were people who didn't know jack shyt about computers, most likely working manual labor/trade jobs

 

[num123]

Over 50% of people in technology jobs don't have a Bachelors degree.

U.S. STEM Workforce: Size, Growth, and Employment​

The STEM Labor Force: Scientists, Engineers, and Skilled Technical Workers | NSF - National Science Foundation

Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) workers make important contributions to improve the nation's living standards, economic growth, and global competitiveness. This report touches on the size, growth, education, salary, and diversity of the STEM workforce. STEM occupations...

ncses.nsf.gov

In 2021, 24% of the U.S. workforce worked in STEM occupations (36.8 million workers), of which more than half (52%) did not have a bachelor’s degree and therefore were classified as the STW.

And i am one of those in the field without a degree. Got through with certifications (that i need to renew at some point) and now with experience. Regardless, just because less people go into a certain field does not mean it is less valuable. More often then not it is something that people are not familiar with or know how to get into, rather than it is garbage.

 

[benjamin]

have a $300k degree and work at chili's, geek brehs.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

He’s not wrong before IT became a viable career path, back then between 2005-2013 ppl thought it was trash career field. The only reason I didn’t go in IT was because my parents understood nothing about computers

IT been popping since the 90s… I don’t know how old you are, but dudes were getting put on with bullshyt MCSE certifications and were making bank…

 

[Sir ZDuke]

It makes sense why the big tech companies are onboard with this new policy. Current H1bs not affected, offshore teams can remain offshore, and the students on visa that would have been converted to work visas are just going to be replaced by AI like the other entry level workers. The biggest losers are the consultancies like Infosys and Tata, that ship people in here. That said, I don’t think this is going to do much for the entry level market. Way too many people got into CS after seeing the jobs created during the ZIRP period, but those jobs weren’t real, just corporate profligacy, hence why they disappeared and the layoffs started once rates started to rise.

 

[Wild self]

have a $300k degree and work at chili's, geek brehs.

Yep

They made fun of Sociology degrees, only to find themselves in the same position

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

That's straight up not true my brother graduated college in 2006 with a Comp Science degree and immediately had a high paying contract w/the Navy flying him all over the country, it was plenty viable back then

Only people thinking it was a trash field were people who didn't know jack shyt about computers, most likely working manual labor/trade jobs

Comp Sci isn’t IT. Let’s be real here. I have a degree in Electrical Engineering. When I was in school you were getting laughed for choosing IT over any engineering discipline ESPECIALLY over Comp Sci, EE, and ECE.

IT been popping since the 90s… I don’t know how old you are, but dudes were getting put on with bullshyt MCSE certifications and were making bank…

Not compared to engineering it wasn’t.

shyt, honestly even now STEM isn’t that popular of a career path.

Remember, out of all American college graduates less than 25% go into something STEM-related.

Of those 25% it breaks down something like:
Only 6% of total graduates go into any kind of Engineering field.

Only 5% go into Computer Science.

1.5% go into Physics or Math (mainly Statistics).

The largest is Biology and Medical at 15%. Many of these are healthcare administration majors, so not even Doctors/Nurses.

That’s at least what ChatGPT/Deep Research gives. People would like to be in these fields so they’re culturally popular, but there’s something called “difficulty” that makes less people finish these degrees.

I know we were 300+ in my elec engineering undergrad only 50 of us graduated

Technology occupations have consistently been the fastest growing occupation since 2000 according to the BLS. Some of these dudes need to go outside.

Occupationally yes but toss a degree requirement in there and watch those numbers dwindle FAST

What? What are you talking about? You may say there were people that did not understand the field but do not say I.T was not a viable field during that time.

I am 40 and maybe it is because I am from the Bay, but I was familiar with not only the field (eventually got into it), but also people working it as well. People were making money back then easily, for example it was common for people to get six figures straight out of college and/or a good paying job secured before they graduated.

We are not even mentioning all of the jobs that you could get with certifications as well. shyt has always been viable and money making, it is not something that just happened in the last 10 years.

bro I’m 31 I’m telling just like the poster above if you chose IT over any engineering discipline back in the day you were getting laughed at. I’m not knocking IT I wish went it over electrical engineering I would have saved my self so much pain and heartache but the only reason I didn’t was due to stigma that’s why I never switched or dropped out of engineering