GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN: Senate agrees to 3wk CR; CHIP funded for 6yrs; Feb8 showdown over DACA
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Dameon Farrow
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Of course this is a chance for the alt right on here to rejoice.
If you truly rock with the left have some patience. If you truly rock with the right as many of you seem to, keep rejoicing and bashing the left.
Everything isn't gonna happen at once. As far as DACA, upcoming battle, right?
Right has a majority, huh? So it's gonna be a fight. Drop the overemotional act.
It's war. Stop crying over battles with all the victories we have under our belt.
If you truly rock with the left have some patience. If you truly rock with the right as many of you seem to, keep rejoicing and bashing the left.
Everything isn't gonna happen at once. As far as DACA, upcoming battle, right?
Right has a majority, huh? So it's gonna be a fight. Drop the overemotional act.
It's war. Stop crying over battles with all the victories we have under our belt.
You're a moron breh but I'm going to let you make it.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
The Hill
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Sen. Susan Collins asked senators to use a “talking stick” to prevent interruptions during bipartisan negotiations to end the government shutdown — but the senator holding the stick threw it across the room when another lawmaker interrupted their thought, breaking a glass elephant Collins had in her office.
Senator threw 'talking stick,' broke Collins' glass elephant during shutdown talks: report
The senator holding the stick was interrupted by a colleague and “forcefully delivered” the stick across the room.
THEHILL.COM
4 hrs ·
Sen. Susan Collins asked senators to use a “talking stick” to prevent interruptions during bipartisan negotiations to end the government shutdown — but the senator holding the stick threw it across the room when another lawmaker interrupted their thought, breaking a glass elephant Collins had in her office.
Senator threw 'talking stick,' broke Collins' glass elephant during shutdown talks: report
The senator holding the stick was interrupted by a colleague and “forcefully delivered” the stick across the room.
THEHILL.COM
88m3
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You could really help your case by arguing with facts
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
Only the participation trophy party could spin a W into an L like this...
Disgraceful bunch of spineless grandstanding losers...
Disgraceful bunch of spineless grandstanding losers...
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i understand people being upset,
but what exactly other than a promise of a vote does anyone think the dems were gonna get out of this?
aside from a prolonged shutdown?
serious question
come feb 8th if they dont get the vote they can shut shyt down for however the fukk long
and red state dems better shut the fukk up and roll with the crew
its on the repubs to fufill their promise
but what exactly other than a promise of a vote does anyone think the dems were gonna get out of this?
aside from a prolonged shutdown?
serious question
come feb 8th if they dont get the vote they can shut shyt down for however the fukk long
and red state dems better shut the fukk up and roll with the crew
its on the repubs to fufill their promise
Why was CHIP part of the govt spending bill again? Why didn’t they just put out a clean CHIP bill with the majority? I haven’t been able to get 1 Republican voter or Trump supporter to answer this question.
This is, like, one of the most dispicable things I have seen, @DEAD7 i know you are a repub/libertarian, why do you figure the Republicans held CHIP “hostage”? I am genuinely confused
This is, like, one of the most dispicable things I have seen, @DEAD7 i know you are a repub/libertarian, why do you figure the Republicans held CHIP “hostage”? I am genuinely confused
Because Republicans let it expire (on purpose), while they worked on their tax bill. They've been trying to defund CHIP for years. They do not want government programs.Why was CHIP part of the govt spending bill again? Why didn’t they just put out a clean CHIP bill with the majority? I haven’t been able to get 1 Republican voter or Trump supporter to answer this question.
This is, like, one of the most dispicable things I have seen, @DEAD7 i know you are a repub/libertarian, why do you figure the Republicans held CHIP “hostage”? I am genuinely confused
CHIP Renewed For Six Years As Congress Votes To Reopen Federal Government
A brief, partial shutdown of the federal government ended Monday, as the Senate and House approved legislation that would keep federal dollars flowing until Feb. 8, as well as fund the Children’s Health Insurance Program for the next six years.
President Donald Trump signed the bill Monday evening.
The CHIP program, which provides coverage to children in families who earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance, has been bipartisan since its inception in 1997. But its renewal became a partisan bargaining chip over the past several months.
Funding for CHIP technically expired Oct. 1, although a temporary spending bill in December gave the program $2.85 billion. That was supposed to carry states through March to maintain coverage for an estimated 9 million children, but some states began to run short almost as soon as that bill passed.
The Georgetown University Center for Children and Families estimated that 24 states could face CHIP funding shortfalls by the end of January, putting an estimated 1.7 million children’s coverage at risk in 21 of those states.
Meanwhile, both houses of Congress had been at loggerheads over how to put the program on firmer financial footing.
In October, just days after the program’s funding expired, the Senate Finance Committee approved a bipartisan five-year extension of funding by voice vote. But that bill did not include a way to pay the cost, then estimated at $8.2 billion.
In November, the House passed its own five-year funding bill for the program, but it was largely opposed by Democrats because it would have offset the CHIP funding by making cuts to Medicare and the Affordable Care Act (ACA).
Prospects for a CHIP deal brightened earlier this month when the Congressional Budget Office re-estimated how much the extension of funding for the program would cost. In a letter to Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Jan. 5, CBO said changes to health care made in the tax bill would result in lowering the five-year cost of the program from $8.2 billion to $800 million — effectively a reduction of 90 percent.
The reason explained CBO, is that the landmark tax bill passed in December eliminated the ACA’s individual mandate, which would likely drive up premiums in the individual market. Those higher premiums, in turn, would increase the federal premium subsidies for those with qualifying incomes. As a result, if kids were to lose their CHIP coverage and go onto the individual exchanges instead, the federal premium subsidies would cost more than their CHIP coverage.
Driving that point home, on Jan. 11, CBO Director Keith Hall wrote to Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) that renewing CHIP funding for 10 years rather than five would save the federal government money. “The agencies estimate that enacting such legislation would decrease the deficit by $6.0 billion over the 2018-2027 period,” the letter said.
That made it easier for Republicans to include the CHIP funding in the latest spending bill. But it infuriated Democrats, who had vowed not to vote for another short-term spending bill until Congress dealt with the issue of immigrant children brought to the country illegally by their parents.
Republicans, said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Sunday, “were using the 10 million kids on CHIP, holding them as hostage for the 800,000 kids who were Dreamers. Kids against kids. Innocent kids against innocent kids. That’s no way to operate in this country.”
Republicans, however, said it was the opposite — that Democrats were holding CHIP hostage by not voting for the spending bill. “There is no reason for my colleagues to pit their righteous crusade on immigration against their righteous crusade for CHIP,” said Hatch. “This is simply a matter of priorities.”
The CHIP renewal was not the only health-related change in the temporary spending bill. The measure also delays the collection of several unpopular taxes that raise revenues to pay for the ACA’s benefits. The taxes being delayed include ones on medical device makers, health insurers and high-benefit “Cadillac” health plans.
The bill does not, however, extend funding for Community Health Centers, another bipartisan program whose funding is running out. That will have to wait for another bill.
CHIP Renewed For Six Years As Congress Votes To Reopen Federal Government
A brief, partial shutdown of the federal government ended Monday, as the Senate and House approved legislation that would keep federal dollars flowing until Feb. 8, as well as fund the Children’s Health Insurance Program for the next six years.
President Donald Trump signed the bill Monday evening.
The CHIP program, which provides coverage to children in families who earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance, has been bipartisan since its inception in 1997. But its renewal became a partisan bargaining chip over the past several months.
Funding for CHIP technically expired Oct. 1, although a temporary spending bill in December gave the program $2.85 billion. That was supposed to carry states through March to maintain coverage for an estimated 9 million children, but some states began to run short almost as soon as that bill passed.
The Georgetown University Center for Children and Families estimated that 24 states could face CHIP funding shortfalls by the end of January, putting an estimated 1.7 million children’s coverage at risk in 21 of those states.
Meanwhile, both houses of Congress had been at loggerheads over how to put the program on firmer financial footing.
In October, just days after the program’s funding expired, the Senate Finance Committee approved a bipartisan five-year extension of funding by voice vote. But that bill did not include a way to pay the cost, then estimated at $8.2 billion.
In November, the House passed its own five-year funding bill for the program, but it was largely opposed by Democrats because it would have offset the CHIP funding by making cuts to Medicare and the Affordable Care Act (ACA).
Prospects for a CHIP deal brightened earlier this month when the Congressional Budget Office re-estimated how much the extension of funding for the program would cost. In a letter to Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Jan. 5, CBO said changes to health care made in the tax bill would result in lowering the five-year cost of the program from $8.2 billion to $800 million — effectively a reduction of 90 percent.
The reason explained CBO, is that the landmark tax bill passed in December eliminated the ACA’s individual mandate, which would likely drive up premiums in the individual market. Those higher premiums, in turn, would increase the federal premium subsidies for those with qualifying incomes. As a result, if kids were to lose their CHIP coverage and go onto the individual exchanges instead, the federal premium subsidies would cost more than their CHIP coverage.
Driving that point home, on Jan. 11, CBO Director Keith Hall wrote to Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) that renewing CHIP funding for 10 years rather than five would save the federal government money. “The agencies estimate that enacting such legislation would decrease the deficit by $6.0 billion over the 2018-2027 period,” the letter said.
That made it easier for Republicans to include the CHIP funding in the latest spending bill. But it infuriated Democrats, who had vowed not to vote for another short-term spending bill until Congress dealt with the issue of immigrant children brought to the country illegally by their parents.
Republicans, said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Sunday, “were using the 10 million kids on CHIP, holding them as hostage for the 800,000 kids who were Dreamers. Kids against kids. Innocent kids against innocent kids. That’s no way to operate in this country.”
Republicans, however, said it was the opposite — that Democrats were holding CHIP hostage by not voting for the spending bill. “There is no reason for my colleagues to pit their righteous crusade on immigration against their righteous crusade for CHIP,” said Hatch. “This is simply a matter of priorities.”
The CHIP renewal was not the only health-related change in the temporary spending bill. The measure also delays the collection of several unpopular taxes that raise revenues to pay for the ACA’s benefits. The taxes being delayed include ones on medical device makers, health insurers and high-benefit “Cadillac” health plans.
The bill does not, however, extend funding for Community Health Centers, another bipartisan program whose funding is running out. That will have to wait for another bill.
CHIP Renewed For Six Years As Congress Votes To Reopen Federal Government
the next guy
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dems just took it in the booty from the Donald. these are your heroes? We need better to get him out.
so what would you have done?
extended the shutdown?
for how long?
at what day/hour would you acknowledge "this isnt working"?
the next guy
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Yeah I would have held out. If DACA is this important, and I see it is, then you make sure those kids stay. Trump won't sign any deal for amnesty and Mitch is a goofball and dishonest. Everyone says were resisting but I see rolling over for Donald.