Growing Everything But The Payroll: The Official 2025 New York Yankees Season Thread

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The mutha****in BX
No Kyle Tucker, same team, only now 600+ PA's of Clint Frazier with a cool nickname. fukk Hal.

Oh, and Tyler Soderstrom is a Gold Glove finalist in LF despite playing a grand total of..............................................zero innings of LF in his entire pro career before this season

But "natural position" and stuff. Ya'll got it tho:hubie:
 

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If the Yankees don’t sign the Japanese slugger , Kyle tucker welcome to the Bronx

Take him :hubie: Dude ain’t a star but would be ideal with one like judge or ohtani not as the main character
 

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My goodness.
That tweet from earlier in the thread was right.

Hal Steinbrenner needs to go.

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Outside of Jerry jones, bob nutting, and John fisher, I’m not sure any owner needs to go as badly as Hal. 3 division titles in the last 13 years and he can’t even be bothered to show up to the end of the year press conference while the GM who was never good says they’re running it all back after his usual spin and lying to end the season. Imagine where this team would be if Judge hadn’t left those $80 million on the table to head to the west coast.
 

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Sometimes I feel like an underrated part of those great Yankees teams of the 90s was how much experience their players and coaches had.

Obviously they had a great young core. And George Steinbrenner’s fury lit a fire under everyone to win.

That said,

Joe Torre was a former MVP with 15 years of managing experience by the time he got to the Bronx.
Bench coach Don Zimmer had 14 years of managing experience.
Willie Randolph won a World Series in 1977 and was a 6-time all star.
Mel Stottlemyre won a World Series in 1986 and was a 5-time all star.
Paul O'Neill won a World Series with the Reds in 1990.
Wade Boggs was maybe the best pure hitter in the game not named Tony Gwynn.
David Cone had been an elite pitcher with the Mets and Royals.

I'm just saying you had a bunch of guys who knew what it took to win and how to deal with the pressure.

Take a look at this Yankees organization today.

Nobody has won a World Series. Not even Gerrit Cole.
Did you know Brad Ausmus was the bench coach? I don't even remember hearing that name in the last 15 years.

When you have a General Manager who hasn't won shyt in nearly 30 years (except for 2009 when you effectively stacked the deck by spending in Free Agency), and you have an owner who refuses to hold people accountable, and have coaches with no winning experience, and you have veteran players with no winning experience, and you don't emphasize fundamentals like defense and aggressive base running and making productive outs and moving runners over, and your manager is so feckless and weak he loses his shyt over basic questions from podcasters and sports radio hosts...

I mean, what are we doing here?
 

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Sometimes I feel like an underrated part of those great Yankees teams of the 90s was how much experience their players and coaches had.

Obviously they had a great young core. And George Steinbrenner’s fury lit a fire under everyone to win.

That said,

Joe Torre was a former MVP with 15 years of managing experience by the time he got to the Bronx.
Bench coach Don Zimmer had 14 years of managing experience.
Willie Randolph won a World Series in 1977 and was a 6-time all star.
Mel Stottlemyre won a World Series in 1986 and was a 5-time all star.
Paul O'Neill won a World Series with the Reds in 1990.
Wade Boggs was maybe the best pure hitter in the game not named Tony Gwynn.
David Cone had been an elite pitcher with the Mets and Royals.

I'm just saying you had a bunch of guys who knew what it took to win and how to deal with the pressure.

Take a look at this Yankees organization today.

Nobody has won a World Series. Not even Gerrit Cole.
Did you know Brad Ausmus was the bench coach? I don't even remember hearing that name in the last 15 years.

When you have a General Manager who hasn't won shyt in nearly 30 years (except for 2009 when you effectively stacked the deck by spending in Free Agency), and you have an owner who refuses to hold people accountable, and have coaches with no winning experience, and you have veteran players with no winning experience, and you don't emphasize fundamentals like defense and aggressive base running and making productive outs and moving runners over, and your manager is so feckless and weak he loses his shyt over basic questions from podcasters and sports radio hosts...

I mean, what are we doing here?
They’re run like a country club or left on auto pilot (whichever you prefer). I see an old graphic from 2022 every now and then comparing their front office to the Astros (which has since been overhauled). This team hasn’t made a meaningful change to its front office since either 2005 or 2007. Hal has not made one single change to the front office Since he took over day to day operations. That was before iron man or the dark knight released in theaters. The fish rots from the head down. Hal doesn’t care about baseball and this is the result. A stagnant organization that lets an inept front office fail the same exact way over and over because nobody is there to hold them accountable.



This is why I laugh when the shills try to talk about Steinbrenner being terrible because of his impatient nature or his meddling. You have to change things when the results are this bad considering what they’ve spent. This same GM in a contract year had $100 million committed to Joey gallo, Aaron hicks, Zack Britton, IKF, Josh Donaldson, & a breaking down Anthony Rizzo and nobody was held responsible for it. In their 1 year of Juan Soto on the team the only free agent they signed was Marcus Stroman. They’ve punted on shortstop an 3rd base for 5+ years now. At the same time the last big fish position player they signed in free agency was Mark Teixiera, and that was 17 years ago. How do you expect to win when you keep these sort of hacks employed and don’t even show up at any point during the season?
 

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To be fair. The Dodgers been in the playoffs 13 straight seasons and went the 1st seven of the 13 getting eliminated.
The Yankees used to be a slow all right hitting lineup maybe 5 years ago. They have changed both to a noticeable degree and still not won. While they definitely make mistakes (sticking with Volpe for so long). They are trying to change the team to get over the hump. They get some unfair hate.
 
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