***GUN CONTROL***...Let's Talk About It... "GUN BAN"... Yay or Nay???

Should We BAN GUNS???


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People only read the bear arms part and don't understand that the country was at war tryna free itself. The 2nd amendment is the worst argument to have in 2012
 

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This dude's mom had 5? guns in the house and got taken out with her own shyt. What are you defending with 5 guns? This ain't Red Dawn

People keep saying 2nd amendment, but do they read the shyt

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The bold is the foundation. I would actually have no problem if communities had a well trained organized civilian group, but that's not what happens.

a free for all isn't a well regulated militia
and it will never be red dawn because the US is the most armed population.
 

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How does this help stop Adam Lanza and James Holmes?

There's no way to prevent random acts of violence such as this one. Even if you banned guns completely, these crimes would still occur.

The only way you could prevent crimes like this is stopping the sell of guns to people completely. These people would have passed any check or test permitting them to obtain firearms under any other circumstance.
 

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There's no way to prevent random acts of violence such as this one. Even if you banned guns completely, these crimes would still occur.

The only way you could prevent crimes like this is stopping the sell of guns to people completely. These people would have passed any check or test permitting them to obtain firearms under any other circumstance.

i don't think people have noticed that these crimes almost always happen in gun-free zones. schools, movie theaters, malls, etc. mass shooters target places where they know everyone will be disarmed.

you'll never hear about a mass shooting at a police precinct or military base. but i'm really saddened by how anti-gun the black community is. i know we usually live in city areas where gun laws are tight. and our communities have been terrorized by gangs. but i don't think a lot of y'all are looking at the bigger picture.

we're 12% of the population. just because whites are all pacified and passive for the time being. doesn't mean they wont eventually flip their shyt and start targeting blacks. not to mention home protection. if someone breaks in your house with a gun, how are y'all going to defend y'all selves? we need guns, they're already out there. the box has been opened and it can never be closed. banning guns just gives criminals free reign on law biding citizens.
 

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This dude's mom had 5? guns in the house and got taken out with her own shyt. What are you defending with 5 guns? This ain't Red Dawn

People keep saying 2nd amendment, but do they read the shyt

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The bold is the foundation. I would actually have no problem if communities had a well trained organized civilian group, but that's not what happens.

a free for all isn't a well regulated militia

One of my fav posters on this hoe...

I literally cracked my knuckles and came into this thread ready to write this exact post.

Stop rooting for the heat doe :heh: :ufdup:

i don't think people have noticed that these crimes almost always happen in gun-free zones. schools, movie theaters, malls, etc. mass shooters target places where they know everyone will be disarmed.

you'll never hear about a mass shooting at a police precinct or military base. but i'm really saddened by how anti-gun the black community is. i know we usually live in city areas where gun laws are tight. and our communities have been terrorized by gangs. but i don't think a lot of y'all are looking at the bigger picture.

we're 12% of the population. just because whites are all pacified and passive for the time being. doesn't mean they wont eventually flip their shyt and start targeting blacks. not to mention home protection. if someone breaks in your house with a gun, how are y'all going to defend y'all selves? we need guns, they're already out there. the box has been opened and it can never be closed. banning guns just gives criminals free reign on law biding citizens.

Fam you keep saying this... but you're ignoring logic and reason. You'll never hear about a mass shooting at a police precinct or military base? Not only is that faulty logic because everyone there has been psychologically screened and has gone through rigorous background checks to use a firearm, there are shootings at military basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting Remember this?

You think that African Americans should be armed and that will make them safer? The problem with this line of thinking is that firearm access by untrained and unlicensed people is going to lead to mishandling and losses/theft. You understand that even if a gun is stolen out of a store, the manufacturer gets paid by the insurance, so every gun that's on the streets being shown in a music video is a net profit for the gun maker. If someone breaks into your house, you think you're better off and safer getting into a shootout with them in your house? That's safe to you? I am certainly not for a ban on firearms, I just want them to be regulated and licensed tighter than automobiles and I don't think this is an unreasonable request... there should be a monitoring system on every single firearm and a reporting and upgrade for every gun owner, with strict fines if you lose your weapons.
 

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i don't think people have noticed that these crimes almost always happen in gun-free zones. schools, movie theaters, malls, etc. mass shooters target places where they know everyone will be disarmed.

you'll never hear about a mass shooting at a police precinct or military base. but i'm really saddened by how anti-gun the black community is. i know we usually live in city areas where gun laws are tight. and our communities have been terrorized by gangs. but i don't think a lot of y'all are looking at the bigger picture.

we're 12% of the population. just because whites are all pacified and passive for the time being. doesn't mean they wont eventually flip their shyt and start targeting blacks. not to mention home protection. if someone breaks in your house with a gun, how are y'all going to defend y'all selves? we need guns, they're already out there. the box has been opened and it can never be closed. banning guns just gives criminals free reign on law biding citizens.
Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed - science-in-society - 06 October 2009 - New Scientist
 
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There's no reason for someone to own an AR-15 and multiple handguns. That's not protection. Who is coming into your home, an army?

There should be limits on how many guns someone can own.
There should be background checks for every sale.
There should be HEAVY penalties placed down on those who do not properly store their guns.
There should be HEAVY penalties on those caught with firearms without a license.
There should be psychiatric evaluations on every person who purchases a gun.
There should be HEAVY penalties on repeat offenders.
There should be metal detectors in every school.

There are a lot of things that can be done to help prevent these incidents. Of course people are still going to obtain guns and of course we should not fully ban guns. But multiple semi-automatics? No, fukk the NRA's higher ups.
 

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People in here arguing that banning guns would make it safer. I don't get it. Seems counterproductive to me. Just as bad as the war on drugs. People still find ways to get high. You think muhfukkas ain't gone find a way to get a gun?

Yes, people will still try, but honestly on 'logic alone' allowing them CANT make things safer can it?
 

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Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Remember this?

You think that African Americans should be armed and that will make them safer? The problem with this line of thinking is that firearm access by untrained and unlicensed people is going to lead to mishandling and losses/theft. You understand that even if a gun is stolen out of a store, the manufacturer gets paid by the insurance, so every gun that's on the streets being shown in a music video is a net profit for the gun maker. If someone breaks into your house, you think you're better off and safer getting into a shootout with them in your house? That's safe to you? I am certainly not for a ban on firearms, I just want them to be regulated and licensed tighter than automobiles and I don't think this is an unreasonable request... there should be a monitoring system on every single firearm and a reporting and upgrade for every gun owner, with strict fines if you lose your weapons.

i know i'm safer with a gun in the house if it's being broken into. you think you're safer w/o a gun if intruders are breaking into your house?

like i said, mass shooters target places where guns are restricted. you're about statistics right? then do the math, compare mass shootings in restricted areas to those where guns were allowed. look at the crime statistics in places where guns were allowed compared to those where guns aren't allowed.

all you have to do is look at the war on drugs. you can't remove the millions of guns that already out on the streets, so what's your realistic solution? people would just make a killing selling weapons and they'll have the upper hand on law biding citizens.
 

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i know i'm safer with a gun in the house if it's being broken into. you think you're safer w/o a gun if intruders are breaking into your house?

like i said, mass shooters target places where guns are restricted. you're about statistics right? then do the math, compare mass shootings in restricted areas to those where guns were allowed. look at the crime statistics in places where guns were allowed compared to those where guns aren't allowed.

all you have to do is look at the war on drugs. you can't remove the millions of guns that already out on the streets, so what's your realistic solution? people would just make a killing selling weapons and they'll have the upper hand on law biding citizens.

Like you said you KNOW your safer, but you actually statistically aren't... like I said if you have a house full of kids would you want to turn your house into the O.K. Corral? That's not safer to me... an ADT system is safer than any gun and as soon as you shatter the glass the cops are on the scene like :cape:

Mass shooters target innocent people are because they don't want to encounter any resistance... if they went into a police station and started shooting it wouldn't be a mass shooting it would be a shootout and they wouldn't get anything done... kind of defeating the purpose.

Comparing this to the war on drugs is actually totally different and I'll explain why. Firstly I am not trying to ban guns I'm trying to get them licensed and regulated tighter than automobiles. I want an outright assault weapons ban but as far as guns go they exist already. I want an end to carry conceal permits as well... There should be STRICT checks and tests similar to automobiles with regards to guns. Status reports, updates, insurance policies everything...

The Colorado shooter literally used his credit card and downloaded his guns and ammunition. At the very least you have to admit the status quo is unbelievable. We're not having a hypothetical "if and but" argument... there is the rest of the world and then there is America. Lets end the war on our streets.
 

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Like you said you KNOW your safer, but you actually statistically aren't... like I said if you have a house full of kids would you want to turn your house into the O.K. Corral? That's not safer to me... an ADT system is safer than any gun and as soon as you shatter the glass the cops are on the scene like :cape:

i have ADT, and the sign they put on your lawn is probably the best deterrent but 911 takes 5-10 minutes to get here. you can wait on the cops to report a dead body but i'd rather have the means to defend myself.

Mass shooters target innocent people are because they don't want to encounter any resistance... if they went into a police station and started shooting it wouldn't be a mass shooting it would be a shootout and they wouldn't get anything done... kind of defeating the purpose.

they don't go to polices where guns are at because they'd get shot.

Comparing this to the war on drugs is actually totally different and I'll explain why. Firstly I am not trying to ban guns I'm trying to get them licensed and regulated tighter than automobiles. I want an outright assault weapons ban but as far as guns go they exist already. I want an end to carry conceal permits as well... There should be STRICT checks and tests similar to automobiles with regards to guns. Status reports, updates, insurance policies everything...

The Colorado shooter literally used his credit card and downloaded his guns and ammunition. At the very least you have to admit the status quo is unbelievable. We're not having a hypothetical "if and but" argument... there is the rest of the world and then there is America. Lets end the war on our streets.

i don't like being put in a position to defend gun rights. most whites are cowards and carry guns because they think some black guy is going to try them one day. but you told me yesterday that you can't fight the government with pea shooters. i agree, you can't fight the government with handguns. however, if you're armed to the teeth with assault rifles, you have a fighting chance to defend you and yours.
 

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i have ADT, and the sign they put on your lawn is probably the best deterrent but 911 takes 5-10 minutes to get here. you can wait on the cops to report a dead body but i'd rather have the means to defend myself.



they don't go to polices where guns are at because they'd get shot.



i don't like being put in a position to defend gun rights. most whites are cowards and carry guns because they think some black guy is going to try them one day. but told me yesterday that you can't fight the government with pea shooters. i agree, you can't fight the government with handguns. however, if you're armed to the teeth with assault rifles, you have a fighting chance to defend you and yours.

The government is not going to come kill you :snoop:

Even if they wanted to...

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Then what?

In Canada you can have guns but it takes a long time. Most of our gun violence is due to firearms which come from Detroit and Buffalo; speaking about Toronto. Now think about that for a second. Guns from Detroit and Buffalo are SO FREE FLOWING that they end up on the streets of TORONTO.

Please think about that :snoop:
 

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People are forgetting that guns don't kill people. People do.

Say they ban guns as a weapon... They gonna ban knives cuz they kill people too. :bryan: They need to do a mandatory class on violence and weapons just like taking driving classes to get license reinstated. They need to ONLY allow those with high risk occupations and/or people using for self defense at home. In other words, if one has priors for being trigger happy or anything similar then its a no brainer. :manny:
 
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