Has Alchemists Work Rate Covered Up the Mediocrity of the Actual Beats?

[TheDarceKnight]

Dude a straight looper (for the most part)...

You can make 10 beats a day with straight looping...It's NOTHING...When I was making looped based sample beats, i could make 10 songs using a single loop...Easily...

An Alchemist beat sounds hot until you hear the original and realize, dude just added drums and little sound effects on a great loop...

Al doesn't chop?

 

[Animal House]

No beat Alchemist has put out over the last 3 years has been mediocre







His production style has touched god status since he hooked up with Roc Marciano, Oh No, Bronson, etc..

That Hoard 90 was very simple but man it complemented Roc Marc so well

And lets not forget Russian Roulette

 

[Animal House]

Al doesn't chop?

Stop it @whitemike don't even try to convince him, i love it when cats criticize producers that loop. A lot more goes into than just a replaying a sample over and over again

 

[g-ice]

Stupid ass thread is stupid...I don't even know why y'all entertain this ol bullshyt.

 

[chopchop702]

I agree with op. However I would really like to see alc work with more current mainstream artists. Would be nice to see what he could cook up with like a Kendrick lamar and such.

 

[MercuryHayes]

ALC is GOAT

Deal with it.

 

[ryshy]

i havent been feelin alc for a while now, he used to b one of my favorites

 

[Zero]

Alchemist better now. He can adapt his beats to the rappers he's producing for a lot better than he did back in the early 2000's

This

 

[StretfordRed]

 

[iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King]

All I'm hearing is al ain't this al ain't shyt, Yo OP... get off ALCHEMIST dikk. That nicca dropping hot fire for many mons, meanwhile you come in here to thecoli... Where the thoro reeal niccas is at and diss the gawd?!!?!? Real talk my ni99a if you was at the barbershop we'd clown your ass for your entire haricut not to mention probably throw a few slaps in ya direction. Never speak on Alchemist again bytch ni99a.

 

[Big Mel]

Different strokes man. I respect that opinion. Everyone goes through shyt that motivates them to make music, and to me, ALC had pretty much just 2 really distinct styles that stand out in my mind, from 1998 through 2010, and then from 2011 to now he's kinda got a different vibe. He's said he's heavily influenced by Madlib these days.

Once producers get to a certain point, and are good on money, they really stop giving a fukk about anything that doesn't interest them. For better or worse, Alchemist stopped chasing big placements and paychecks a few years ago. Plus, ALL producers are fukkin weirdos. All of em.

Khrysis is literally a musical genius, but he's a strange cat, and when he gets into a zone or style he bugs the fukk out on it and runs with it. I think what we're seeing now is Alchemist just really on a certain style and vibe. You get those classic bangers from him still, but yeah, the style is different.

I like a lot of his new shyt. I like a lot of his old shyt. I am glad for better or worse that he doesn't make beats that sound like his 1999-2004 run. You still get those old style bangers, like Traction, Blood of the Goat, IMDKV, More Wins, Dr. Kimble, Double 07, Genesis of the Omega, Tunnel Vision, Scottie Pippen, The Red Carpet, Yasir Arafat, Trailer Mix, etc.

There's a lot of his newer shyt I don't love. Also when you're doing whole albums, there's way more material to pick apart. Alchemist released 2 albums from 2004-2009, and a couple mixtapes. He's dropped like 6 albums since 2011.

When 9th Wonder started doing collab albums with Murs, Buckshot, Jean Grae, and Skyzoo after the first Little Brother album I think he started catching a lot more hate from online. Let alone all the Justus League cats where he produced the majority of their albums.

was just talking about this with a friend yesterday. like 9th is consistently better than Khrysis but he absolutely has a ceiling. Khrysis, on a few occasions, has floored me with a total out of left field style. he's a wild card.


this being one: i don't know where they found that soul man or what kinda drank was goin around but good god that beat/performance is OUTTA HERE!

 

[TrifeGod]

400,000 sounds so much better now that im hearing the instrumental

CLASSIC Alchemist beat..classic meaning nobody can re-create this this IS Alchemist

 

[Brock Landers]

I'd stab someone with a butterknife for disrespecting the goat Alan

 

[Kid Coli]

@OP

just enjoy the music any try not to over analyse it

 

[Grand Eeezus Maxwell]

Al doesn't chop?

Don't explain it to him. Let the lost be lost.