HHH Spit the ETHER tonight

[DoubleJ13]

To sell the match...Cripple H basically said Daniel Bryan wasn't a star. "I only wrestle stars..A+ wrestlers...Undertaker, Rock, or Brock Lesnar. I would never wrestle the likes of you." Now...if Cripple H is as over as everyone says and everyone listens to him, why the fukk would anyone buy the PPV with him undercutting one half of the main event like that? It's insanity. One again...he proves he's out of the loop.

He killed Orton with that too. The guy that they have been calling the face of WWE all through the angle, he basically said he also wasn't on that A+/star level.

Orton is coming out of this whole thing looking so much worse than he did going in. They fukked up by giving Bryan the belt back the second time so quickly. HHH leaving the angle to do the Rhodes thing hurt it because nobody was giving Orton any type of reaction unless he was with HHH, plus it would have made more sense for Vince to be the one doing the Rhodes stuff. Then there is all this shyt with the Big Show that nobody wanted.

They could still stretch this for awhile with Bryan finally getting the belt & a run with it, but they have already taken the feeling out of it by giving it to him the second time. There are about 3 different ways for HIAC to end & 1 of them doesn't make sense, 1 only works if HBK is willing to work another match or 2, & the other 1 is just dumb enough that I wouldn't be surprised if that is the finish they went with.

 

[daemonova]

bring back the wigger persona and the spinner belt

 

[bsmooth]

I stopped watching wrestling because of the McMahon-Helmsley era, shyt was annoyingly bad

 

[The War Report]

HBK should of been the one to carry the company after Austin and Rock left.

 

[Mr.Black]

This! Basically this has been the problem with the whole feud. But according to his supporters he's being da "goat heel" and this has been amazing tv but whatever

Exactly, the problem with hhh is he wont put shyt over the way vince would, you gotta remember austin dropped a fukking car on him or some shyt



and he showed up the next night with a bandaid on his forehead.

And when big show finally did knock him the fukk out, he should've showed up the next week with the whole fukking halo and they should've went with the jaw wired shut thing, i guarantee vince would've been in a fukking wheelchair with casts and everything and got more fukking heat, instead this goof doesnt put the shyt over and walks out plain as day like nothing happened, the reason austin/mcmahon worked was because vince put everything austin did over like a million dollars.

 

[Lucky Millionaire]

This is actually a very good discussion RIGHT HERE on #TSC *bang bang*

The Ted Turner shot was cool (it got reaction from the crowd) using Jericho, RVD, and Edge was cool since they're all current babyfaces BUT WWE never tried to build the company around those three. Edge was a Smackdown Guy and RVD ruled ECW (both incarnations) but they were never molded to be the guy like Warrior, HBK, Lesnar and Batista were. If were going by WWE only then there's only five people who are undoubtedly the GUY during their eras:

Hogan

Bret (HBK, Diesel & Taker were close and some guys may well disagree but push comes to shove Bret was their guy see WM10, SS92, WM12, WM13 The Simpsons cameo and HBK even admitting he wanted Bret's respect and contract)

Austin/Rock (Austin 1st half Rock 2nd half of Attitude Era the only era were there were TWO once in a generation talents as the face)

When you think of Ruthless Aggression you don't think of HHH despite the fact he owned RAW, Lesnar was clearly being groomed as the guy w/ wins over Taker, Hogan, Rock, Austin (aborted), Angle, RVD, etc. KOTR and WWE Title within his first year. Watch the WM19 BTS Documentary and watch how various guys, especially Flair, talk about him. This is clearly Lesnar despite HHH having a chokehold on the World title. Also Smackdown Six. No Clear face during RA Era.

Cena (Batista, Hardy, Punk, and Bryan are the only ones who came close to Cena as faces therefore disqualifying Edge and Orton)

Triple H really went off the rails when he started mentioning how he only fights big stars and not little guys like Daniel. I will take back this criticism if HHH vs Bryan does happen (which after last night it HAS to).

Good thread.

EDIT: Kinda funny how heated HHH is about his legacy and the only era he could've been the "face" of was a transition period much like................Bret Hart.

 

[ML29]

Exactly, the problem with hhh is he wont put shyt over the way vince would, you gotta remember austin dropped a fukking car on him or some shyt



and he showed up the next night with a bandaid on his forehead.

And when big show finally did knock him the fukk out, he should've showed up the next week with the whole fukking halo and they should've went with the jaw wired shut thing, i guarantee vince would've been in a fukking wheelchair with casts and everything and got more fukking heat, instead this goof doesnt put the shyt over and walks out plain as day like nothing happened, the reason austin/mcmahon worked was because vince put everything austin did over like a million dollars.

not sold Big Show's Punch completely and they put out some lame story on wwe.com about having a concussion solely so they could say it wasn't true and that he too tough to be hurt the next week. His involvement in the feud has been a waste from jump. It's laughable that people claim him and steph are carrying the feud when their the one dragging it down on the 1st place.


At times I think they've designed to the feud to hurt Orton more than to build or hurt Bryan. While wins on tv Orton has mostly been turned into a mindless lackey who can't get anything done on his own.

 

[R=G]

Did Blandy mess up last night and call Bryan an "A+ player" before flipping out at the end?

 

[dh86]

False. HHH was only unover a few months after WM 15. When he smashed up Rock in the casket the rest was history

He was unover throughout 1999 while he kept being pushed to the top regardless and replaced Steve Austin the first time. Gee, wonder why?

 

[The G.O.D II]

He was unover throughout 1999 while he kept being pushed to the top regardless and replaced Steve Austin the first time. Gee, wonder why?

Lies. Like I said he was over after he first 2 months of his heel turn and he was a perfect heel for the Rock/Foley. Your opinion on HHH holds no weight anyway ever since you compared him to Larry Zbysko. Go ahead and make some silly post about gimmick matches and other irrelevant matters

 

[dh86]

Lies. Like I said he was over after he first 2 months of his heel turn and he was a perfect heel for the Rock/Foley. Your opinion on HHH holds no weight anyway ever since you compared him to Larry Zbysko. Go ahead and make some silly post about gimmick matches and other irrelevant matters

The guy that would be pushed to the top that summer got a pop that would make The Conman blush.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Being compared to Larry Zbysko isn't necessarily a bad thing. At one point Larry was the most hated heel in wreslting by a wide margin.

 

[dh86]

Lies. Like I said he was over after he first 2 months of his heel turn and he was a perfect heel for the Rock/Foley. Your opinion on HHH holds no weight anyway ever since you compared him to Larry Zbysko. Go ahead and make some silly post about gimmick matches and other irrelevant matters

I wish Larry AWA promo with the Rockers was on YouTube, it was a proto HHH masturbatory promo

 

[The G.O.D II]

The guy that would be pushed to the top that summer got a pop that would make The Conman blush.

What does this prove. I can provide dozens of instances where HHH is getting heat(including the clip you posted) The fact is he was over, the PPV's he headlined broke records, he was the top heel during the hottest period of wrestling. Men lie, women lie, numbers dont.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Being compared to Larry Zbysko isn't necessarily a bad thing. At one point Larry was the most hated heel in wreslting by a wide margin.

Yea in 1979. What about the next 20 years?