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Most people still prefer & only date their own.
Only a small percentage of ppl date outside their race
Only a small percentage of ppl date outside their race
Honest discussion about black women's issues/contempt with black men
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ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
I will say this Hispanic men are in the bottom of earnings and yet you rarely hear Hispanic women rage on about ain’t shyt Spanish nikkas or them not getting their shyt together. They adore and are loyal to their men. A lot of toxic black women have the delusion that they deserve a black man who makes six figures and has a nice house etc. Meanwhile they majored in womens studies with useless liberal arts degree saddled with 90k in student loan debt while working for Marshall’s making 17 an hour.
At the end of the day these toxic women can’t find a good black man because they do not want a good black man. They mess with garbage ass nikkas and complain black man ain’t pulling their weight ignoring black men who are building. And they claim to be woke but yet ignore the odds stacked against black men in this country. Instead of celebrating the brothers who make it and are doing well they spit on us. They think we are all Leroy, Pookie or Raymond. At the end of the day there is good black women just ignore these toxic ones because they are going to lonely in 20 years.
At the end of the day these toxic women can’t find a good black man because they do not want a good black man. They mess with garbage ass nikkas and complain black man ain’t pulling their weight ignoring black men who are building. And they claim to be woke but yet ignore the odds stacked against black men in this country. Instead of celebrating the brothers who make it and are doing well they spit on us. They think we are all Leroy, Pookie or Raymond. At the end of the day there is good black women just ignore these toxic ones because they are going to lonely in 20 years.
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It is a symptom of white supremacy
Some black women feel that they need to date out to find partners who aren't oppressed by the American Racist Superstructure
Little do they know, that they are not immune to it
I wish those women the best of luck. They are victims too.
Some black women feel that they need to date out to find partners who aren't oppressed by the American Racist Superstructure
Little do they know, that they are not immune to it
I wish those women the best of luck. They are victims too.
I hate dapping this, but honestly I think this has some truth to it. Just from observation a lot of the women I know that spend a lot of time complaining about black men the way that the OP described are usually not very attractive or they're average in looks, so they don't have as many options with the type of BM they want, anyway. My hair stylist was actually having a conversation with me about this last week. She was complaining about how all BM can offer is d***, and they're all too broke. But, she also admitted that the type of BM that she wants(from a physical standpoint or financial standpoint) never approaches her or is interested in her. So she started to date white men. She married a WM. The marriage didn't work, because the whole time she wasn't attracted to the white guy and deep down she wanted a bm(to me this goes against the notion that just getting married to a nonbm will lead to a happily ever after). But she wanted to be married, and felt like the type of BM she would want to marry her, wouldn't. I think generally speaking, the more attractive you are, as a woman, the more options you have within and outside of your race, yet, when you have more options within your race, your less likely to need to explore options outside of it. This is not to say that there aren't attractive BW that aren't angry with BM, but generally the most attractive women are with men of their race, and because they can attract a higher caliber of men, they're less likely to complain on the same level as the ones that can't.
But in any case, based on my stylist experiences, I almost feel like women need to be more cautious about their motives when they "swirl". Some women are with WM, out of hurt, or revenge, or because they feel it's the best that they can get, and some of these same women are angry with BM collectively because of their personal experiences with BM. A lot of the time, they weren't able to get the BM they wanted--they felt overlooked by the men they would want, or they just weren't getting approached, so they turn to men of other races. JMO.
Also want to add, that I do think that there are some other reasons that some BW hold contempt--but I think others have already touched on it. A lot of women in general want some of the same things, financial security, commitment, a family, a good male provider, etc. Black women are not different, yet obviously because of the way things are in this country(and have been), we haven't gotten the same luxuries as other women(WW for instance).
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wait dude what....did the counsellor say your male relatives only got with their partners due to the myth of black mens size??
My girl just graduated from her master degree in computer science, you know how many other black girls were in her bachelor program and they were African has well. 2...
My sister went to college for chemistry, you know how many black girls she had per class less than black males. And their were more African girls in the classes oppose to African American girls..
Black woman have created this false narrative that their education inline means their aren't black man that earn more then them because they grow up with the thought process that school will make you more than someone who hasn't gone to school. Is that true? Yes but for who? People in STEM and a few individuals who make something of themselves. Now does that apply to the average black man and woman who goes to college in non stem degrees thinking they are going to get into leadership roles at their job paying them more than their counterparts? Most likely not.
There are black man in not college with no debt attached to their name making more than black woman working social or support jobs in corporate America. The woman who are complaining are simply saying 2 things, my degree makes me feel like I have the potential to get further than you (someone without a degree) but this is shown to be not true for majority (99% of employees) and that degree is looked at has a social status to black woman so being with a man without one is not what they want to subscribe too.
There is this huge debt problem a lot of college educated black woman are going through but nobody wants to speak on that..
But please stop with this rhetoic we have a huge problem in the STEM field of Black man and especially black woman majoring in those degrees. Black people aren't going to college for degrees that will change the world.. stop lying and show the facts
College educated black man will not solve the problems that black woman think what the black community needs. What the community needs are viable businesses, entrepreneurs creating jobs for other black folks, THAT'S ALL!
Trying to live up to images and buy shyt that our people overall cannnot afford. Our people are trying to keep up with society image that was built to take all of your money and more.
I get so upset at this topic because black woman really are not trying to face the fact either like many black man that we are enemy number 1 regardless of your position.
When the recession occurred do you know who was fired first from corporate jobs? Black woman. This country only seems to use them has pawns but they don't want to hear that, my degree will get me through. False!
All of this, once we are ready to stop chasing white imagery. We'll wake up and start to see where we should put our resources towards
My sister went to college for chemistry, you know how many black girls she had per class less than black males. And their were more African girls in the classes oppose to African American girls..
Black woman have created this false narrative that their education inline means their aren't black man that earn more then them because they grow up with the thought process that school will make you more than someone who hasn't gone to school. Is that true? Yes but for who? People in STEM and a few individuals who make something of themselves. Now does that apply to the average black man and woman who goes to college in non stem degrees thinking they are going to get into leadership roles at their job paying them more than their counterparts? Most likely not.
There are black man in not college with no debt attached to their name making more than black woman working social or support jobs in corporate America. The woman who are complaining are simply saying 2 things, my degree makes me feel like I have the potential to get further than you (someone without a degree) but this is shown to be not true for majority (99% of employees) and that degree is looked at has a social status to black woman so being with a man without one is not what they want to subscribe too.
There is this huge debt problem a lot of college educated black woman are going through but nobody wants to speak on that..
But please stop with this rhetoic we have a huge problem in the STEM field of Black man and especially black woman majoring in those degrees. Black people aren't going to college for degrees that will change the world.. stop lying and show the facts
College educated black man will not solve the problems that black woman think what the black community needs. What the community needs are viable businesses, entrepreneurs creating jobs for other black folks, THAT'S ALL!
Trying to live up to images and buy shyt that our people overall cannnot afford. Our people are trying to keep up with society image that was built to take all of your money and more.
I get so upset at this topic because black woman really are not trying to face the fact either like many black man that we are enemy number 1 regardless of your position.
When the recession occurred do you know who was fired first from corporate jobs? Black woman. This country only seems to use them has pawns but they don't want to hear that, my degree will get me through. False!
All of this, once we are ready to stop chasing white imagery. We'll wake up and start to see where we should put our resources towards
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I think it’s both but I am speaking from the perspective of the African continent and historical missteps made by African leaders that are repeatedly screwing people over.
You say a lot, but like I always say black male leadership is lacking.
Even in places where black people are majority. My biggest issue with some black men in authority is their unwarranted arrogance and the fact they want to be praised for the absolute minimum.
You look at the black experience anywhere besides US and there is a consistent theme. Any race can screw black people over with the complicity of many black male leadership.
Interracial racial is only a minute issue for me. In the grand scheme because it is byproduct not the root of the problem that I have of black men globally.
Even in places where black people are majority. My biggest issue with some black men in authority is their unwarranted arrogance and the fact they want to be praised for the absolute minimum.
You look at the black experience anywhere besides US and there is a consistent theme. Any race can screw black people over with the complicity of many black male leadership.
Interracial racial is only a minute issue for me. In the grand scheme because it is byproduct not the root of the problem that I have of black men globally.
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
White supremacy is global.
White people had a head start and focused on taking us down early which is why most places where we are has been stripped by them.
That is the real consistent theme but for some reason you fight your hardest to ignore the white supremacy factor in everything. Most of those places you mentioned has been touched by white hands.
All now Ghana is seeing that first hand with the US heading there and interfering.
Ignoring the racist white factor is your reoccurring theme.
OP like someone else said this thread won't go the way you want it to because these guys simply do not get it.
They don't understand they are the men in the community and women are simply just fed up with the lack of leadership. Men in other races would take responsibility and know it is their fault.
It gets corny hearing Black men say all the time "Well women can do this why can't we?" I mean thats your argument? Sisters are just tired of the immaturity OP. I mean look at someone like a Tariq Nasheed, one of the most well known "conscious" dudes out there and look how even he goes on about and how petty he acts.
As for your question at the end on if this can ever get better, it can get better if Black men stop being coddled and enabled by other Black men and most importantly sisters. Like you said you see now more than ever sisters are getting fed up. I noticed it also during the Stephen Clark situation. When Black Lives Matter been mainly Black women protesting for years, they leave the protests to go home where they are still marginalized and constantly disrespected by Black men and not appreciated. Then a situation like Stephen Clark comes up and they are reminded even more of that. That is why Stephen Clark was an example by them that they are not gonna be excusing men like that or defending them if they had that much hate in their heart for Black women.
I brought up the issue of coddling and enabling because Black men will become leaders more and step it up when we stop being enabled. For the annoying coli hoteps i'm not talking about white people so don't bring up white people. I'm talking about being enabled by other black people. The same way Black men and Black women enable men who beat up women in the community, sleep with and pimp underage girls, etc. The young women are blamed by the community primarily other women for getting hit and saying they must have done something. Or as we see in cases like R-Kelly the girl gets blamed more than the man himself.
These things have been a talking point even more the past year and sisters are really joining together more and supporting each other. The coli sees the IG image and isn't paying attention but it is getting to the point of more sisterhood. This is why i'm not surprised OP mentioned the applause by all the women. They can keep taking it lightly but dudes about to be left in the dust by their own women and laughed at by men of other races. All these stories about Black men since 2018 don't help much matters either. Whether it is Juelz, Kodak, Chris Brown, Fabolous, Nas, Cosby, T.I., etc and counting.
All they are asking for is men to lead. Stop the diversionary tactics talking about how they look or how Black women spend money on weaves. What kind of answers are those to them talking about the serious issues they are talking about? About domestic violence going on in the community and why they aren't marrying you guys and you talk about weaves?
They don't understand they are the men in the community and women are simply just fed up with the lack of leadership. Men in other races would take responsibility and know it is their fault.
It gets corny hearing Black men say all the time "Well women can do this why can't we?" I mean thats your argument? Sisters are just tired of the immaturity OP. I mean look at someone like a Tariq Nasheed, one of the most well known "conscious" dudes out there and look how even he goes on about and how petty he acts.
As for your question at the end on if this can ever get better, it can get better if Black men stop being coddled and enabled by other Black men and most importantly sisters. Like you said you see now more than ever sisters are getting fed up. I noticed it also during the Stephen Clark situation. When Black Lives Matter been mainly Black women protesting for years, they leave the protests to go home where they are still marginalized and constantly disrespected by Black men and not appreciated. Then a situation like Stephen Clark comes up and they are reminded even more of that. That is why Stephen Clark was an example by them that they are not gonna be excusing men like that or defending them if they had that much hate in their heart for Black women.
I brought up the issue of coddling and enabling because Black men will become leaders more and step it up when we stop being enabled. For the annoying coli hoteps i'm not talking about white people so don't bring up white people. I'm talking about being enabled by other black people. The same way Black men and Black women enable men who beat up women in the community, sleep with and pimp underage girls, etc. The young women are blamed by the community primarily other women for getting hit and saying they must have done something. Or as we see in cases like R-Kelly the girl gets blamed more than the man himself.
These things have been a talking point even more the past year and sisters are really joining together more and supporting each other. The coli sees the IG image and isn't paying attention but it is getting to the point of more sisterhood. This is why i'm not surprised OP mentioned the applause by all the women. They can keep taking it lightly but dudes about to be left in the dust by their own women and laughed at by men of other races. All these stories about Black men since 2018 don't help much matters either. Whether it is Juelz, Kodak, Chris Brown, Fabolous, Nas, Cosby, T.I., etc and counting.
All they are asking for is men to lead. Stop the diversionary tactics talking about how they look or how Black women spend money on weaves. What kind of answers are those to them talking about the serious issues they are talking about? About domestic violence going on in the community and why they aren't marrying you guys and you talk about weaves?
This is something else i didn't mention above...
And i agree. I've seen arguments from many women lately talk about how what Black men do is because they are talking about white supremacy all day and pissed off by it and since they are too afraid to confront or for better words compete with the white man or try to conquer them.....they take out their anger on the person closest to them...the Black woman.
This is why they then love to demean women all day. Whether it is in public or online on social media, they get off on doing this because they know it is the closest person to them that they can say or do something and not get called out. Because the community doesn't care about Black women as much especially Black women not caring of other Black women.
This is what goes on. The "absolute minimum" as you say
Right now you can go on any site like Youtube or this one discussing these issues and guaranteed guys will spend the discussion giving themselves excuses and always bringing up black women wearing weaves. The argument for everything...weaves
It isn’t just white people, it’s any non black people.
And there are things that can be done to make small improvements outside of the scope of racism that are not being handled the way they should.
I don’t kiss anyone’s ass on here but I am fair. I can acknowledge that whites have been a foot on our necks and also say that black men who have some form of authority too often abuse it because they know how desperate blacks collectively want leadership.
But too often these same men who vowed to be better get on some power trip.
And no I am not expecting perfection but some consistency would be nice. If every group we come in contact with finds a way to exploit us then at some point we are partly to blame.
I am off that woe is me, I am black.
Please get Tariq's nuts out your mouth. Your about to choke.
Can yall ever discuss this without harping on the interracial marriage or weaves and calling everyone c00ns? Thats your argument for everything? How hard is it to present leadership for women then these issues all fix themselves?
You love bringing up white men for everything. White men are not stopping you from building an economy. Talking about "what we need is to gain more power". What is stopping you from doing so now?
Name me 10 Black women right now who have married white men and either before or during the relationship demeaned Black men and shytted on them....
Meanwhile we can name dozens of Black men who did that. For all the shyt yall say some of yall are fortunate Black women have not ethered us as much in public as they could have right now...cause the bullshyt yall be on...
I AM WE ARE
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Serena Williams for one, take off your cape bruh. I'm not bashing black women, but to sit here and deny that they don't demean black men is serious denial on your part and you know it. Not once an I saying black women ain't shyt, but if you haven't noticed they ARE delivering ether on a consistent basis. Just because they don't ALL come out verbally their actions speak volumes
This is another thing yall love to do "take your cape' "your simping",etc. Anytime someone doesn't cosign the misogyny yall have you say its simping if someone agrees with a woman. When any of yall come in contact with the white racist cops though you gonna cross your legs and the bass in your voice will go away
Serena williams is not an example please stop. Serena has not said one bad thing about Black men. SHOW ME
The ether they giving yall is tough love. How is a woman telling yall to step it up bothering you guys so much? Why can't we be leaders like they ask?