Hot 97 Debates Takeover vs Ether...........In 2018

[Billy Ocean]

Yep. That's what I was thinking too

It's a pattern. Lots of Nas bitterest enemies are former Stans who he slighted in someway. Rosenberg needs to get over it.

I said it on here years ago...basically any rapper that had a public issue with him are his stans. Main one being Jay.

 

[Po pimp]

How?

- Bones Crossroads remix dropped in 96.

- “All That I Need” remix that won a grammy and “Shimmy Shimmy Ya” was 95. All I Need remix was bigger then 1ST of the month

- Cuban Linx and Liquid Swords LPs vs 1 Bone album.

You forgot about Creepin On Ah Come Up. I remember Thuggish Ruggish Bone playing 24/7 on The Box. That was 94. Then E. 1999 Eternal came out in 95. Crossroads wasn’t the only big song off that album. You’re speaking from an East Coast bias.

 

[Yippee Ki Yay]

Who are these 2 people talking in that video
They either both have the worst taste in hip hop to think Jay and Em are the 2 best right now and then include Kendrick as well or are just going with the casual's standard top 5 bull crap that they all go with
Either way gtfo of here with that crap

That Rosenburg just sounds bitter towards Nas as if Nas has upset once upon a time
And to still me debating who won between ether and takeover.
Only 1 person went on the radio crying about it saying it was a bit to personal and not called for. And his name wasn't Nas
That's also the reason why I think Jay does subliminal disses all the time now which leaves us guessing who he is actually going for and hasn't got the guts to go direct at anyone as the last time he went direct at someone he had to go cry on the radio because of the reply he got

 

[smokeurobinson]

You forgot about Creepin On Ah Come Up. I remember Thuggish Ruggish Bone playing 24/7 on The Box. That was 94. Then E. 1999 Eternal came out in 95. Crossroads wasn’t the only big song off that album. You’re speaking from an East Coast bias.

Why are u bringing up 94 when we talking 95?



U quoted me saying Pac was king in 96 and u making up some nonesense about east coast bias.

 

[the cac mamba]

this was unlistenable got thru 5 minutes of them dikkriding him for being old before i turned it off

 

[Po pimp]

Why are u bringing up 94 when we talking 95?



U quoted me saying Pac was king in 96 and u making up some nonesense about east coast bias.

Because that EP carried over into 95, plus Bone actually had an album come out in 95. You're the one who said Wu Tang was running things in 95 without an album since 93.

 

[Benefited]

he never said jay can't get girls
he said jay is a ugly nikka who gets girls now because of his money and status
which is the reason he got beyonce

queens nikkas did run def jam. even if you wanna run with that stupid theory that jay-z was nas's boss despite denials from everyone involved, then cool. it still doesn't change anything lol

Beyonce doesn't have her own money?Couldn't have left him after he cheated and got some ugly billionaire?She probably had Jay sign a prenup the way she was cakin.But feel free to let off your chatty patty theorys if you must

Plus you can't say what is changes,it was discussed with Jay when they wanted to sign Nas,so apparently he had a little power over there as much as you want to deny that. You really think if Jay made them choose between him and Nas at the time,they would've chose Nas?Plus you proved my point,if the optics weren't so bad,why would they feel the need to explain in details that Jay wasn't Nas boss? Obviously some people didn't like it,I remember many Nas fans not thinking it was a good look,and obviously Jay fans got a nice laugh out of it.

But I already said its not fair to look at it in retrospect,you didn't even need to say any of what you said. Because I said it didn't matter what anybody thought in hindsight after the fact.

 

[Benefited]

Jays whole diss to Nas was about him having garbage music and not being smart with money but in turn signs the dude. Why would you sign someone to your label if his music is garbage and wasn’t moving units wouldn’t that be a bad business move?

Jay signed Lady Soveirgn and Tru Life,need I say more
You can't deny Nas is a factor in hiphop and will be profitable as an artist.
Not signing him would have been stupid and petty.

I guess some people do still think Jay signed Nas to HIS LABEL @seemorecizzy
apology accepted,I was really there guys.

 

[Benefited]

Ain't no other kings in this rap thing
They siblings, nothing but my children
One shot they disappearin'

"Biggie Ran New York,Pac ran america"-Cormega

Think its safe to say you are the king if you run america,especially if the one place you don't run is the other guys hometown.
Presidential candidates are expected to win their state

 

[Taco]

Jay signed Lady Soveirgn and Tru Life,need I say more
You can't deny Nas is a factor in hiphop and will be profitable as an artist.
Not signing him would have been stupid and petty.

I guess some people do still think Jay signed Nas to HIS LABEL @seemorecizzy
apology accepted,I was really there guys.

Pretty much what I’m getting at is Jays whole diss was lies and he didn’t believe the shyt he was saying Take Over while dude called up Angie on the phone crying talkin bout “foul” lol

 

[Benefited]

2pac was king for 1 year..1996....thats it. His ghost afterwards dont count. 95 was Wu Tang with a splash of Bone and tricklings of Biggie. Puffy was king in 97 while Master P was runner up.. X , Lauryn and Jay in 98 and so on.

Point still proven,Pac was king in 96. You made all the rest of them nikkas share years with other nikkas like I said.
"Jay and Nas were never that nikka"
They had plenty of time to make one year theres in undisputed fashion.
Jay has better arguments than Nas though.

 

[Benefited]

Pretty much what I’m getting at is Jays whole diss was lies and he didn’t believe the shyt he was saying Take Over while dude called up Angie on the phone crying talkin bout “foul” lol

Were you actually around at that time? What Jay said was the sentement at the time about Nas from his career to his catalogue. Look no further than the New York emcees who were above him on the popularity pyramid. It really didn't even have to be said because nikkas really did pretty much forget Nas was emceeing. He wasn't in the top tier anymore,so many new heavy weights had emerged in his own state and nationally.

 

[Taco]

Were you actually around at that time? What Jay said was the sentement at the time about Nas from his career to his catalogue. Look no further than the New York emcees who were above him on the popularity pyramid. It really didn't even have to be said because nikkas really did pretty much forget Nas was emceeing. He wasn't in the top tier anymore,so many new heavy weights had emerged in his own state and nationally.

Jay talked about his catalogue as a whole. Yeah I know Nas fell off but Jay was tryna make it seem like Nas only had one hot album while in reality Jay was a Nas Stan. No matter what Jay did or said Nas will always be on the same tier as him. Even with all of Jays success him and Nas will always be compared which speaks volumes especially for someone who has only put 4 albums out in 10 years.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Point still proven,Pac was king in 96. You made all the rest of them nikkas share years with other nikkas like I said.
.

Well actually Pac shared 96 with Fugees.

 

[spliz]

Beyonce doesn't have her own money?Couldn't have left him after he cheated and got some ugly billionaire?She probably had Jay sign a prenup the way she was cakin.But feel free to let off your chatty patty theorys if you must

Plus you can't say what is changes,it was discussed with Jay when they wanted to sign Nas,so apparently he had a little power over there as much as you want to deny that. You really think if Jay made them choose between him and Nas at the time,they would've chose Nas?Plus you proved my point,if the optics weren't so bad,why would they feel the need to explain in details that Jay wasn't Nas boss? Obviously some people didn't like it,I remember many Nas fans not thinking it was a good look,and obviously Jay fans got a nice laugh out of it.

But I already said its not fair to look at it in retrospect,you didn't even need to say any of what you said. Because I said it didn't matter what anybody thought in hindsight after the fact.

For one. This whole argument is retarded based on the fact the line was a play on a line Jay SAID HIMSELF on Song Cry. So all this defense is hilarious. Also. Jay didnt sign Nas. It wasnt even Jay's idea or Nas'. It was LA Reid who was the mastermind of that. The ultimatum argument doesnt make sense because Jay was coming out of retirement and he couldve pulled an ultimatum whether he was pres of Def Jam or not.