How A Group Of Black Progressives Derailed Black Progress: Purists vs Pragmatists

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not voting for Hillary is the best thing that ever happened for black people. It was very revealing that our so called leaders have no plan, and just riding the democrats coattails for elected positions to help them exploit black folks for votes.

Pay attention to whats going on. All these black liberals do is talk about what Trump is doing. But they asses are not doing shyt in response. I feel like the democrats really only exist to help retard the progress of black people, by promoting the illusion of progression. They are even greater swindlers than so called the right wingers. But I recognize that an eagle has wings, and the right and left are merely the appendages of the same bird. The wings go where the bird takes\tells them. So I know whether its the left wing of the right wing of America, that the Eagle is still whats in control.

This is a very disingenuous statement.

People are needed to highlight transgressions. OTHERS are also needed to plot a course.

 

[Black Panther]

It's strange to me that posters in here are advocating *actively going backwards* over stagnation

Too many black people take our rights to vote, protest, and participate in political dialogue for granted

We've only been full US citizens by law for about 53 years, now is not the time to protest vote

 

[Black Panther]

Oh, @4d 6f 6e 65 79, I picked up your shill check for you.

Spoiler

They haven't printed mine.

 

[intra vires]

you really wanted to discredit me but you point out something so hypocritical that it boils down to semantics of what I initially said in the first fukking place!!!!

also you just joined thursday and already have zero rep....

You're one of those posters who is concerned with "clout" on an anonymous message board? That says more about you than you realize, but it's a helpful way to frame your opinions going forward.

For the record, I wasn't trying to do anything but point out the obvious contradiction. If I had know it would hurt you I would have chosen different words.

Here I'll explain it to you this way:

• Losing your job is a negative experience.
• Losing a rec league basketball game is a negative experience.
• However, they aren't equally negative. Losing your job is worse than losing in rec league.

Do you see how two negative things can have different value? The extremes in my example are illustrate that point.

However, if you need further help discerning this difference let me know.

 

[ORDER_66]

You're one of those posters who is concerned with "clout" on an anonymous message board? That says more about you than you realize, but it's a helpful way to frame your opinions going forward.

For the record, I wasn't trying to do anything but point out the obvious contradiction. If I had know it would hurt you I would have chosen different words.

Here I'll explain it to you this way:

• Losing your job is a negative experience.
• Losing a rec league basketball game is a negative experience.
• However, they aren't equally negative. Losing your job is worse than losing in rec league.

Do you see how two negative things can have different value? The extremes in my example are illustrate that point.

However, if you need further help discerning this difference let me know.

In your own words your saying that both are negative but they have different values... I get that but like I heard before... Voting for the lesser of two evils is Still VOTING FOR EVIL.... what part of that are you NOT understanding???

And if you have too much negative rep on this board by all accounts that highlights you as a trash poster for your opinions. Just what I'm thinking...

Leave me alone breh... I said what I said and I stand on it... Both parties are horrible for black people you can boil it down to semantics they are both equally bad now... one's aggressive ones passive both bad... fukking semantics...

 

[How Sway?]

I do agree that a lot of black pundits (ie tariq nasheed) lacked foresight and are looking funny in the light bytching about trump and his proposed state sanctioned white supremacist policies,
But you can put the blame on black people, esp when Hilary got 90 percent of the black vote.

the onus is really on white women and Hispanics.

Lets be clear black people make up maybe 12% of the population and maybe 6% of the voting block. No presidential candidate needs the black vote... no one. Its just math.
Pretending we have more power and influence than we do is one of the many issues plaguing the black community.

the dems definitely need that 6 percent, since a majority of whites vote republican

 

[General Mills]

Wtf is this even about? Even with some talking heads saying we should abstain from voting Black men still voted 80% for Hillary. Black women voted 94%!!


The majority of black people who voted voted for that big cankled bytch.


Of course nobody expected her to hit Obama levels. She is not BLACK. But she cleaned up with us.


By contrast. White men 31%. WHITE WOMEN 43%!! Latino Men 62% Latino Women 68%


By a large margin we supported her more than any other group. Yet yall want to focus on the few who said fukk her im not voting

Yall want 100% obedience to the democratic party??? yall disgust me

 

[intra vires]

In your own words your saying that both are negative but they have different values... I get that but like I heard before... Voting for the lesser of two evils is Still VOTING FOR EVIL.... what part of that are you NOT understanding???

The Democrats have shown the capacity to be an ally. It's been awhile but it's still there. Juxtapose that with your own statement about GOP hostility.

Setting that aside, progressive policy outcomes would be better for society at large and only one party is even flirting with that direction.

And if you have too much negative rep on this board by all accounts that highlights you as a trash poster for your opinions. Just what I'm thinking...

Leave me alone breh... I said what I said and I stand on it... Both parties are horrible for black people you can boil it down to semantics they are both equally bad now... one's aggressive ones passive both bad... fukking semantics...

Lol I signed up with 0 and now I have -10 because you got upset and negged me.

Yeah I'm done with you. You're too obtuse to have a constructive conversation with.
Enjoy your internet clout.

 

[How Sway?]

The article title should state, how black progressives ruined Criminal Justice Reform that proportionally helped black people and allowed racists to reach mainstream by not voting and not pushing back because they were idiots that don't know shyt. That's why I'm so disgusted at how so many people look up to and follow these youtube militant idiots for knowledge.

fukk all of them. They're all idiots. Anyone who looks up to them instead of doing their own research and forming their own opinions is an idiot.

this is true too. Like I said these nikkas CLEARLY lacked foresight and saviness man.

I mean, I totally understood their motive but the last election was NOT the time to be experimenting.
Hilary wasn't the best candidate by a long shot but she was way better than this cheeto MFer

I still think the onus in on White Women and Hispanics.

Wtf is this even about? Even with some talking heads saying we should abstain from voting Black men still voted 80% for Hillary. Black women voted 94%!!


The majority of black people who voted voted for that big cankled bytch.


Of course nobody expected her to hit Obama levels. She is not BLACK. But she cleaned up with us.


By contrast. White men 31%. WHITE WOMEN 43%!! Latino Men 62% Latino Women 68%


By a large margin we supported her more than any other group. Yet yall want to focus on the few who said fukk her im not voting

Yall want 100% obedience to the democratic party??? yall disgust me

this guy talking about kicking hispanics out and grabbing bytches by the poosay yet they still voted for him.

And people wanna blame black folks 'not showing up at the polls' for trump

 

[ORDER_66]

The Democrats have shown the capacity to be an ally. It's been awhile but it's still there. Juxtapose that with your own statement about GOP hostility.

Setting that aside, progressive policy outcomes would be better for society at large and only one party is even flirting with that direction.





Lol I signed up with 0 and now I have -10 because you got upset and negged me.

Yeah I'm done with you. You're too obtuse to have a constructive conversation with.
Enjoy your internet clout.

You gonna get more negs talking to others like that you Passive-aggressive bytch... IGNORED!!!!

 

[General Mills]

this is true too. Like I said these nikkas CLEARLY lacked foresight and saviness man.

I mean, I totally understood their motive but the last election was NOT the time to be experimenting.
Hilary wasn't the best candidate by a long shot but she was way better than this cheeto MFer

I still think the onus in on White Women and Hispanics.


this guy talking about kicking hispanics out and grabbing bytches by the poosay yet they still voted for him.

And people wanna blame black folks 'not showing up at the polls' for trump

Exactly!! Instead of bytching about how only 80% of black men and 94% of black women voting for that ho they should be THANKFUL they got that much.

Democratic party is shyt and we still support that shyt way more than any other group and we get less from them.

 

[intra vires]

You gonna get more negs talking to others like that you Passive-aggressive bytch... IGNORED!!!!

I obviously hit a nerve.

You can't discern the difference between a party that gives you healthcare and one that actively erodes your right to vote.

Have a nice day!

 

[theworldismine13]

So, are you a separatist or some pan African? cuz seemingly, the only other option is relying on the Republicans/alt right alliance to get reform that is needed, which could only be gotten in a parallel universe.

At a minimum, the black vote demands criminal justice reform. The talk of socioeconomic mobility is different story. One could say that whichever party is committed to advancing the nation's well being and economic interests should get the vote in that respect. It is evident however, that Republicans just want to deregulate everything, and let the league favorites run up the score board

They are economic darwinists, they believe it's survival of the fittest out there, and only the richest survive. An ideology that would make thinkers of the enlightenment roll in their graves.

At least with white liberals can guilt tripped in helping in the disenfranchised, but these Republicans cats just don't give af.

the only real option is to split the black vote and stay as neutral as possible

basically i think economics comes first and then politics,

any political or social changes black people want is proportional to economic power, South Africa (and obama for that matter) is a good example of how black people can have full political power and still have very little actual power and still be at the bottom

the problem with what you are saying is that you are using the premise that political power will result in economic power and will result in changes, it doesnt, thats why it doesnt really matter that hillary lost, all hillary would have done is put lipstick on black issues

 

[Stone Cold]

What a bytch ass thread

 

[ineedsleep212]

Author probably agrees with this blasphemous ass tweet.