How come there are no black criminal organizations or prison gang structures?

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Despite the large population in these scenes?

How come there isn't a 'black mafia' that is structured like the mexican mafia, italian mafia or aryan brotherhood?

I know in the past there was BMF, Folk Nation, Black Guerrilla Family, Panthers, etc. What happened? What changed?

Genuine questions, I tried to do some research on why this changed after the 80's but could not find anything.
 

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There aren't?

thought all the GDs do - besides punk rappers - is extort money.
 

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Because we can only get so far until they reel us back in.............
 

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Blacks are the minority in the western world. Whites are the dominant which means most political figures and people of power are most likely to be white, making the infiltration by white criminal organizations much easier as they blend in. They are more likely to be exposed to powerful people and able to extort/bribe/incentivize them to cede power to them.

As blacks, we're ostracised and far less represented in political areas so its harder to infiltrate those type of institutions :francis:
 

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Despite the large population in these scenes?

How come there isn't a 'black mafia' that is structured like the mexican mafia, italian mafia or aryan brotherhood?

I know in the past there was BMF, Folk Nation, Black Guerrilla Family, Panthers, etc. What happened? What changed?

Genuine questions, I tried to do some research on why this changed after the 80's but could not find anything.


You haven't been following the BGF trials related to Baltimore prisons? The BGF also has a strong Federal presence. Still, in harmony with your question, I don't think Black men do particularly well with taking orders and structure. Matter fact I think most men in general regardless of race would rather do their own thing in life. With prison though, I think circumstances force adjustment with Blacks being the most resistant. Not to mention Black men are self destructive in many ways, historically taught to hate ourselves and the result is the lack of unity even in prison unless forced to have solidarity (race riots) On the other hand, whites being a minority in prison settings, are forced to become organized for protection and in some cases they become predatory in their own right (AB, Texas AB, 211 Crew, EK etc.)
 

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You haven't been following the BGF trials related to Baltimore prisons? The BGF also has a strong Federal presence. Still, in harmony with your question, I don't think Black men do particularly well with taking orders and structure. Matter fact I think most men in general regardless of race would rather do their own thing in life. With prison though, I think circumstances force adjustment with Blacks being the most resistant. Not to mention Black men are self destructive in many ways, historically taught to hate ourselves and the result is the lack of unity even in prison unless forced to have solidarity (race riots) On the other hand, whites being a minority in prison settings, are forced to become organized for protection and in some cases they become predatory in their own right (AB, Texas AB, 211 Crew, EK etc.)
Interesting, but in California aren't blacks a minority compared to the mexicans and yet still disorganised? I find the structures of the other prison gangs very interesting, but when I try to read up on Black prison gangs I can't find anything.
 
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