How do we stop school shootings without crossing the imaginary line that the pro 2nd amendment crowd has drawn?

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There would need to be an increase in mental health holding facilities where those people are isolated away from the rest of society.
 

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Bruh let's end this talking point right now. These mass shootings are not being done with illegal guns. These are being with legal owned guns. Having better regulation is not about punishing legal gun owners it's about protecting society and having more accountability. The good of society should trump all. Period.
I'm talking about the actual thread topic, ending school shootings. All that stuff you're talking about won't end them. Properly securing schools will.
 

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That cost money and isn't a viable option for each school especially when the majority of schools are strapped and resources as it is. That’s not even factoring how you obviously won’t get every state and district on board.
These school districts and cities could most definitely “find” the money and resources for it, issue is they don’t care enough to do so.

I live in Texas and the amount of money these school districts waste on stupid shyt is ridiculous.

And don’t even get me started on how over funded these police departments are down here.

Look up how much the Uvalde Police Department was given annually in funding.

Only for them to stand around like a bunch of cowards the moment shyt got real.

Most cities police departments are no different from Uvalde’s.

They could easily invest that money they’re wasting on these incompetent pigs into protecting the kids instead.

They just don’t care to.

Ironically, the schools that don’t have the resources for it don’t seem to be the ones having the problem.
 

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These school districts and cities could most definitely “find” the money and resources for it, issue is they don’t care enough to do so.

I live in Texas and the amount of money these school districts waste on stupid shyt is ridiculous.

And don’t even get me started on how over funded these police departments are down here.

Look up how much the Uvalde Police Department was given annually in funding.

Only for them to stand around like a bunch of cowards the moment shyt got real.

Most cities police departments are no different from Uvalde’s.

They could easily invest that money they’re wasting on these incompetent pigs into protecting the kids instead.

They just don’t care to.

Ironically, the schools that don’t have the resources for it don’t seem to be the ones having the problem.
Every city and school district just doesn't have it like that and it's disingenuous to believe that they do. Hell, some of these small cities don't even have a police force or fire department to even help protect the city, so how could they hire one to protect the schools?

It's like posters forget that there are legit poor cities out here, but instead use theirs for the basis of their argument.
 

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Every city and school district just doesn't have it like that and it's disingenuous to believe that they do. Hell, some of these small cities don't even have a police force or fire department to even help protect the city, so how could they hire one to protect the schools?

It's like posters forget that there are legit poor cities out here, but instead use theirs for the basis of their argument.
Obviously not all of them have it like that, but again, it doesn’t seem to be the demographics that “don’t have it like that” that are the problem.

Most of these school shootings are being done in middle class to upper middle class suburbs.

A kid from an impoverished community likely doesn’t have access to an AR-15.

You think his single mom who is busy working two jobs to support the family has an automatic rifle casually laying around?

You think she has the money to spend on ammo and can afford to pay the fees to practice at the range?

Nah it’s mostly the more well off CACs who are doing this shyt.

Even if you wanted to still make the argument that some of these suburban school districts don’t have the resources, there are ways around that.

If poorly funded inner city schools can afford to do it then others can as well.
 

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Obviously not all of them have it like that, but again, it doesn’t seem to be the demographics that “don’t have it like that” that are the problem.

Most of these school shootings are being done in middle class to upper middle class suburbs.

A kid from an impoverished community likely doesn’t have access to an AR-15.

You think his single mom who is busy working two jobs to support the family has an automatic rifle casually laying around?

You think she has the money to spend on ammo and can afford to pay the fees to practice at the range?

Nah it’s mostly the more well off CACs who are doing this shyt.

Even if you wanted to still make the argument that some of these suburban school districts don’t have the resources, there are ways around that.

If poorly funded inner city schools can afford to do it then others can as well.
I know it’s hard for you to believe, but there are even poorer funded inner city schools than the ones that you know of.

Police officers just aren’t going to be an option in every school.
 

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I know it’s hard for you to believe, but there are even poorer funded inner city schools than the ones that you know of.

Police officers just aren’t going to be an option in every school.
Your logic is flawed, though.

You seem to think that because some districts can’t afford it, that means that we should just scrap the idea entirely.

The districts that can afford to implement it are typically the districts where these mass shootings are more likely to happen.
 

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I'm talking about the actual thread topic, ending school shootings. All that stuff you're talking about won't end them. Properly securing schools will.
I’m not against properly securing schools. But you brought up illegal guns. My point is you have to create more of a deterrent before people even leave the house. I’m saying making it more costly to even mishandle a gun will make people think a lot harder before acting especially if them or loved ones will be economically impacted by bad decisions.
 

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As long as Republicans believe every White Americans needs to be armed, it'll never end..
Just like their anti aboortion stance is driven by low White birth rates, their obsession with the 2nd amendment is some supremaciust belief about ensuring all White Americans are armed incase the Blacks or someone decides to revolt. The two go hand in hand because they represent white fears.
To the point they have fought against background checks..
 

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Your logic is flawed, though.

You seem to think that because some districts can’t afford it, that means that we should just scrap the idea entirely.

The districts that can afford to implement it are typically the districts where these mass shootings are more likely to happen.
That's not what I said at all. No where in my comment did I say that the option should be scrapped. You just made that assumption.

You said that every school should have metal detectors and police officers and I countered that it's not going to be an option for every school which is the truth. Pointing out the flaws in the idea doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be implemented as there’s no one correct answer to this situation and multiple things can be true.
 

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We'd have to change America's mentality regarding guns and that won't happen without a tragedy of epic proportions.​

American Politicians are being openly targetted by militias across the nation.

Lil white kids are regularly being mowed down.

Some cac took out a machine gun and fired at a concert crowd of cacs for 10 mins. ( i make a joke about this in middle school in the 2000s and got in trouble for it, didn't think it would happen)

How more epic could these tragedies get? The only I see something changing is if the next tragedy makes doing nothing economically infeasible because trying to appeal to America fake religious morals or logically is a proven waste of time. On any topic. Money talks here and shootings bolster gun and ammo sales.
 
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