HOW in the hell was Pac better than Nas at rapping?
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no need to post this twice
I see your pencil stabbing body count has gone up
LMAO, it did one of those "you can only post every blah blah blah"
@ your time limit between posts nikka
lol, ok.. If I'm chilled out though I can't even do pac's less hype songs. Pac is for that hype sh1t... he has passion. Nas has more material to make you think as opposed to making you simply upset.
And Lupe isn't better than either lyrically. His BEST lyrical moments might have been better because u have to rewind 20 times to get everything out of it...... But he doesn't do that sh1t all the time.. and he comes off like the n1gga you ^ described at the end of ur post just now. I'm sure Lupe would get smacked to the ground and have those fake dreads pissed in , if he ever encountered a real nicca, other than the one that funded the start of his career - the career he just threw in the toilet with lasers.
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@nineteeneightysix
I understand all that. I'm a fan of tupac.. but I'm not going to pretend all that ignorant sh1t was conscious. He did have the conscious songs, and I like those.. but Nas was still better. There's a difference between talking about wanting to shot some cop and my moms on drugs..... And speaking about how drugs got here and the social-economic effects of drug laws and prison industrial complex. I do believe as a person Tupac was on that level. In interviews he goes there. Musically, he wasn't on that sh1t too much.
And if you were a "I ONLY listen to tupac" "I only have sex while listening to Tupac, I only eat listening to Death row" type of person, then I can't even continue this conversation.
I understand all that. I'm a fan of tupac.. but I'm not going to pretend all that ignorant sh1t was conscious. He did have the conscious songs, and I like those.. but Nas was still better. There's a difference between talking about wanting to shot some cop and my moms on drugs..... And speaking about how drugs got here and the social-economic effects of drug laws and prison industrial complex. I do believe as a person Tupac was on that level. In interviews he goes there. Musically, he wasn't on that sh1t too much.
And if you were a "I ONLY listen to tupac" "I only have sex while listening to Tupac, I only eat listening to Death row" type of person, then I can't even continue this conversation.
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Always thought nas was way more lyrical than pac
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
nah... If you can sit here and say Pac or naS is better than Lupe lyrically then I simply have no idea what you base lyricism on... it cant be anything thats demonstrable because Lu bodies both them niccaz with the pen quite easily actually...
Lyricism is "Failure" "Theme Music To A Driveby" "Grammy Family Freestyle" "D'Evils" "Hovi Baby" Andre 3000 verse on "Royal Flush"...
lyricism is NOT naS talkin about unfolding scrolls or Pac hangin out in penitentiaries and cemeteries...
nineteeneightysix
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You don't listen to Pac's music and/or you like your hip hop a certain way, and Pac did not fit in your way...
That's cool that you think Nas is better than Pac...
This topic cannot even be argued, unless we agree on some OBJECTIVE criteria to compare the two...
Without any objectivity, we will be going in circles...
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ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Nas made a reggae/rap fusion album, that's how versatile he is yet he gets little to no credit for being versatile.
There r so many songs that people still don't appreciate from Nas... at least if they aren't paying attention.
Mac Casper
@adonnis - pull up, there's refreshments
Tupac is a better songwriter
And he has the greater catalog
/end discussion
And he has the greater catalog
/end discussion
face after every line, and I don't...
Freestyle Phantom3.0
Habitual Line Stepper
is the goatso is eminem better than pac.. em strengths are what you posted.. or you going to go the double standard route
NO i dont think EM is better than the GOAT TUPAC SHAKUR
Never did I say that being complex made Nas a better lyricist. I posted that Nas was more complex, because it's where they differ as lyricist. My overall point was that Nas and Pac were lyrically equal with the difference being that Nas was more complex technically.
tupac was a great artist.. I say equal as far as song writing.. Nas is also good.
Tupac was better at dancing (lol, it's a part of hip hop i guess), wearing face jewelry, acting, and having commercial success.
nineteeneightysix
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I never listened to Lupe and I NEVER will...
If you believe that Lupe is lyrically better than Pac or Nas that's your opinion, but that doesn't mean you have to throw dirt on Pac's and Nas's body work...
Lupe isn't even respected by his peers (this generation of rappers)...
Pac aint even close bruh he was basic as fukk
Since when does basic make him lesser as a rapper. One could make the argument that Pac does more with less. It also goes back to the point that @ROFL made in response to my post. If being complex makes Nas better, then it also makes a lyricist like Em better.
The bars you chose to post from "Where Ya'll At" are typical floss/braggadocio bars. The rhyme schemes are nice and there's some slick imagery, but it goes back to the point of just because it's more complex doesn't mean it's better.