HOW in the hell was Pac better than Nas at rapping?

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Pac isnt in the same category as rakim,nas,ghostface and biggie

He's 2-3 tiers below them Baby has equal or better lyrics than pac.Lmao @ these brainwashed stans tryin to compare that basic ass nikka to nas

:russ: what post in this thread made you so emotional you decided to throw ya credibility in the bushes:laff:...this nikka said not only equal which wuz already laughable,but actually said :birdman: actually may have better lyrics than Pac..
 

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You have an unhealthy obsession with Nas. How did it start?

And that's not what I said at all.

LOL Suuuuure you didnt MEAN to say it... you didnt WANT to say it, but you did... and the facts bear that out.

I want a naS stan to be honest and demonstrate their claims. Admit that "nacho cheese, I'm Castro" is some of the absolute worst lyrics ever written... admit that you dont "unfold" a scroll and only an idiot would think you do.

Once I get honesty out of naS stans I may stop exposin the coward, but until then its gon be a hot summer :whew:
 

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LOL Suuuuure you didnt MEAN to say it... you didnt WANT to say it, but you did... and the facts bear that out.

I want a naS stan to be honest and demonstrate their claims. Admit that "nacho cheese, I'm Castro" is some of the absolute worst lyrics ever written... admit that you dont "unfold" a scroll and only an idiot would think you do.

Once I get honesty out of naS stans I may stop exposin the coward, but until then its gon be a hot summer :whew:

WHEN AND HOW DID YOUR OBSESSION WITH NAS START?

http://www.the-coli.com/booth/101111-jay-zs-2nd-verse-devils-any-verse-ny-rapper-6.html#.UXNNFZG9KK0

The discussion starts on page 6.

You need to admit that you're ducking explaining why you misquote the "Castro" line. I've asked you five times now.
 

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LOL Suuuuure you didnt MEAN to say it... you didnt WANT to say it, but you did... and the facts bear that out.

I want a naS stan to be honest and demonstrate their claims. Admit that "nacho cheese, I'm Castro" is some of the absolute worst lyrics ever written... admit that you dont "unfold" a scroll and only an idiot would think you do.

Once I get honesty out of naS stans I may stop exposin the coward, but until then its gon be a hot summer :whew:

You are also still ducking explaining why You won't criticize Jay for using an unnecessary word in D'Evils.
 

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WHEN AND HOW DID YOUR OBSESSION WITH NAS START?

http://www.the-coli.com/booth/101111-jay-zs-2nd-verse-devils-any-verse-ny-rapper-6.html#.UXNNFZG9KK0

The discussion starts on page 6.

You need to admit that you're ducking explaining why you misquote the "Castro" line. I've asked you five times now.

Dog, you played yourself by not catching the Jay Z line... so already I know what type of guy you are, you cant comprehend advanced lyrics. So naS smart dumb lyrics seem great to you...

in actuality theyre VERY dumb. There is nothing in naS whole catalog like that one Jay Z line... THAT is lyricism. Let a naS stan tell it "nacho cheese, I'm Castro" is actually good lyricism. As a matter of fact, you refuse to admit how stupid the line is.

I would be hating if all I did was say, "ah, that nicca naS is garbage" and left it at that without breakin down EXACTLY why I say it... kinda like naS fans do in response to me actually showing you how fukcin stupid his shyt is... instead from the intellectually lacking naS stans we get, "come on dawg its naS"

Well, sorry, "come on dawg its naS" doesnt tell me anything, as a matter of fact it proves to me that naS fans are as dumb as you say they are. They dont know about the words naS uses and are impressed because of it.
 

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Record sales don't matter. Nas has a loyal base of fans who list him as their favorite rapper. Nobody says Pac is their favorite and never will - minus a few people. There are people like me that have Pac on a top 6 list, but not with him in the top 2.
might be the dumbest shyt ive ever read. son,pac is a worldwide icon with multiple statues built of him,university classes based on him etc. Nas is hip hop,pac transcends the genre. You gotta be ignorant or trolling. Hes probably the most beloved rapper in history,and is considered the goat by the majority.
 

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nikkas really tryin to make cases that pac is just as good a rapper as nas? :laff:

This is like saying gerald wallace is just as skilled as Jordan
 

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Nas is a great lyricist...

Ima a nas fan bruh...






But Song for song...PAC by a long shot.


Prove me wrong.
This shyt is all subjective breh. IMO if I chose Nas' 20 best tracks and put them up against Tupac's 20 best tracks, Nas' would be better. How am I supposed to prove you wrong if you favor Pac? And to say by a long shot is a huge exaggeration. Your putting Pac at an incredibly high pedestal, this is why I always say he's overrated. Nas is a top 5 MC in hip hop history at the very least, to think Pac is that much better is ridiculous. Every passing year I see more and more lists with Nas as the GOAT.

I feel like Nas is a better lyricist, has a better voice, is a better storyteller. He has a more complex intricate rhyme schemes he has compound rhymes, he can spit multis, he uses similes, metaphors and juxtapositions like few others. Nas rapped as if he were a gun, that's personification right there and he absolutely killed it. Debating this is like :deadhorse:.

I also think Nas' best albums are better than Pac's top to bottom. When I listen to Illmatic, It Was Written, The Lost Tapes, Life is Good, Stillmatic I can pretty much listen right through. I can't say the same for Pac's albums outside of 7 Day Theory. But like I said it's all subjective.
 

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Dog, you played yourself by not catching the Jay Z line... so already I know what type of guy you are, you cant comprehend advanced lyrics. So naS smart dumb lyrics seem great to you...

in actuality theyre VERY dumb. There is nothing in naS whole catalog like that one Jay Z line... THAT is lyricism. Let a naS stan tell it "nacho cheese, I'm Castro" is actually good lyricism. As a matter of fact, you refuse to admit how stupid the line is.

I would be hating if all I did was say, "ah, that nicca naS is garbage" and left it at that without breakin down EXACTLY why I say it... kinda like naS fans do in response to me actually showing you how fukcin stupid his shyt is... instead from the intellectually lacking naS stans we get, "come on dawg its naS"

Well, sorry, "come on dawg its naS" doesnt tell me anything, as a matter of fact it proves to me that naS fans are as dumb as you say they are. They dont know about the words naS uses and are impressed because of it.

WHEN AND HOW DID YOUR OBSESSION WITH NAS START?
 

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This shyt is all subjective breh. IMO if I chose Nas' 20 best tracks and put them up against Tupac's 20 best tracks, Nas' would be better. How am I supposed to prove you wrong if you favor Pac? And to say by a long shot is a huge exaggeration. Your putting Pac at an incredibly high pedestal, this is why I always say he's overrated. Nas is a top 5 MC in hip hop history at the very least, to think Pac is that much better is ridiculous. Every passing year I see more and more lists with Nas as the GOAT.

I feel like Nas is a better lyricist, has a better voice, is a better storyteller. He has a more complex intricate rhyme schemes he has compound rhymes, he can spit multis, he uses similes, metaphors and juxtapositions like few others. Nas rapped as if he were a gun, that's personification right there and he absolutely killed it. Debating this is like :deadhorse:.

I also think Nas' best albums are better than Pac's top to bottom. When I listen to Illmatic, It Was Written, The Lost Tapes, Life is Good, Stillmatic I can pretty much listen right through. I can't say the same for Pac's albums outside of 7 Day Theory. But like I said it's all subjective.

good point.

But that's only because pac died when nas was only on his second album.
Pac ain't get a chance to reach his full potential.

But you right though nas discography is solid
 

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I feel like Nas is a better lyricist, has a better voice, is a better storyteller. He has a more complex intricate rhyme schemes he has compound rhymes

See, I posted the challenge below 6 pages ago and no one who claims Nas is much better at rhyming has stepped up with an example:

The point (or challenge) is this: you can't find a sequence of like 4 or 6 bars by Nas that uses a rhyme pattern that can't be found in any Pac verses. That is why it is wrong to say Pac was lyrically weak whereas Nas is a lyrical master or some shyt.

So, post 6 specific bars. Not an entire song, not an entire verse, not the name of some songs. Just post one sequence of 6 bars from a Nas song that showcases a rhyme pattern or a use of multi's that has never supposedly been encountered in a 2pac song. Preferably a couple of lines that actually have some meaningful content too. If you could do that, then you would be able to prove your point and I will :shake: you.
This is what the thread is all about really.

If Nas is really that much better lyrically (and with lyrical, I mean just rhyming ability in this context), it shouldn't be so difficult. All this other bickering back and forth with opinions isn't really helpful and leaves the discussion going nowhere.

I'll be waiting.
 

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See, I posted the challenge below 6 pages ago and no one who claims Nas is much better at rhyming has stepped up with an example:



So, post 6 specific bars. Not an entire song, not an entire verse, not the name of some songs. Just post one sequence of 6 bars from a Nas song that showcases a rhyme pattern or a use of multi's that has never supposedly been encountered in a 2pac song. Preferably a couple of lines that actually have some meaningful content too. If you could do that, then you would be able to prove your point and I will :shake: you.
This is what the thread is all about really.

If Nas is really that much better lyrically (and with lyrical, I mean just rhyming ability in this context), it shouldn't be so difficult. All this other bickering back and forth with opinions isn't really helpful and leaves the discussion going nowhere.

I'll be waiting.

man, I been askin for EXACTLY that for years upon years... Not once has it been answered. Not once. Its THE reason I shyt on naS stans.
 

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JFC..it never stops with the "Nas vs PAC vs jay z vs biggie" threads on this site..

When I get some money I'll rent out an arena and provide swords and axes so you Stans can fight it out to the death..that's the only logical way I see solving this dilemma..
 
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